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#61 smarti


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Posted 14 November 2007 - 12:18 PM

Its great to see a strong response here. Its shows the amount of passion that the people here put into their images!

Number 1 is the only solution for me. Keep it simple with no room for complaints. Let the heart and sole of the site make the tough decisions!

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 01:26 PM

Having read all the comments it is apparent that the overall response from members is that the current system is very popular and most want it to stay. However, with the system open to abuse, I have a couple of suggestions for Mark and members to contemplate.

1. To be eligible to vote, members must have posted a certain number of photos on the blog, - for example lets say a minimum of 20 plus? (decision being Mark's). Also, a time frame as well, to have been a member, maybe 1, 2 or 3 months, and be currently active (another decision for Mark). That would also stop a flood of photos too, some might decide to do that in 1 day just so they could vote. These couple of proposals would certainly make it more difficult for voters with bogus identities!! Newbies can enter a picture but can't vote.

2. Most people don't seem to mind if there are prizes or not (myself included), it is great to be selected in the 10 images and if there are no prizes then who cares, it really is about the pictures and having a bit of fun. It could also be a deterrent for anyone contemplating voting dishonestly, just to win a prize!! Take away the reward, and they may lose interest as there is really nothing in it for them!!

If these changes are possible, then the POTW remains basically the same, but less open to abuse.

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 02:16 PM

This is my second post also and I have to agree with Richard, it's not about the winning for me, it's about seeing your pic up there with the top10. This has only happened to me once, but it was a great feeling and if there are people out there that will still break the rules to win even though they know the PB team are onto them, then let them carry on.

Plus, you can't take away the only thing Amanda has to look forward to, have a heart wink.gif .

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (snakeman @ Nov 14 2007, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is my second post also and I have to agree with Richard, it's not about the winning for me, it's about seeing your pic up there with the top10. This has only happened to me once, but it was a great feeling and if there are people out there that will still break the rules to win even though they know the PB team are onto them, then let them carry on.

Plus, you can't take away the only thing Amanda has to look forward to, have a heart wink.gif .

LOL!!! Thanks for caring, Rob. *hugs* Amanda



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Posted 14 November 2007 - 09:09 PM

Sounds like a mess to me!
Can't the problem be fixed so the viewers can continue voting.
I won once and never got a prize, I was asked to sign up for a service that I didn't want or need to get my prize.
My prize was a refund for a product that I wouldn't use.
I'm sure I'm not the only person that went through this.
This website charges to post pics and advertisements and should be able to afford to give out the promised prizes.
One judge for this contest is ridiculous!
If you respect Mark's photography enough to give him the power to judge your photos then Mark is the perfect judge for the contest.
I'm not familiar with Mark's photography skills so I can't say either way.
I know that Mark is fair and just wants us to be happy smile.gif

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:33 PM

Please keep it the same!
The thrill for me is to make the top 10 and to see the variety in the top pics for the week. I think most would agree to do away with the prizes. Its good enough just to have your pic up there on the " grand stage". Cheating or not, I can still get a feel for the impact of my photo with other members. And I appreciate every single vote that I get. I dont care about every vote that everyone else gets. Every picture has something to offer and teach us all and I would hate to lose the chance to see them every week. Keep the variety and keep the chance for everyone to get recognized for their individual taste.

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Posted 14 November 2007 - 11:34 PM

I have always thoroughly enjoyed voting for POTW. I'd really miss it if it were to disappear completely. Perhaps, along with the 1-10 rating, you could add an extra button for members to nominate the photo for POTW. This vote could be hidden from the membership until the end of the week when the top ten could be displayed for all to see.
I also believe that satisfaction should be prize enough for hitting the top ten.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 12:21 AM

Another thought. (I'll have to stop all this thinking - its getting too much for me!)

I know its more work for Mark but I am a member of another site which runs a monthly 'photo fix' competition. The prizes for the POTW could be given for that instead and have no prize for POTW - just the honour!

Photo Fix is where Mark puts up a photo (could be a members photo or one of his) and we can all download it and process the *&$ out of it to our hearts content. We then email it back to Mark and he judges which is the best version. This could be monthly and perhaps if a member submits the photo then they could judge it that month and so on.

I know that when surfing through the galleries I often see photos which I feel I could improve with a little (or sometimes a lot) of tweaking! From the other site, it is always amazing to see the different creativity and variety of results that can be achieved from the same photo.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 12:34 AM

The 2 options of choice, are both (essentially) about having ONE person deem what they think is the number one photo.

I'm with all who before me have disapproved of that concept.

I'm also with all who want to keep the capacity to 'vote'. But I would greatly appreciate attempted measures at curbing the cheaters who basically get their friends/family to come in and vote on their photo (or however they choose to pile those votes in on their own photo)..

The suggestion has been made to make voting more of a privilege, rather than a default right of simply registering here. That's a damn good suggestion!

Oh, and if the dangling prize is contributing to the abuse of the voting system, then maybe we don't need them.
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Posted 15 November 2007 - 11:47 AM

After also watching this discussion develop over the past few days I have to say I agree with Jan and Richard. It would be a shame to lose the status quo just because of one or two individuals.Hopefully now that everyone's attention has been drawn to it multi voting will be kept to a minimum.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 02:47 PM

I'm so sorry about this issue because the fact is that we are missing this week voting. I think we should keep the system as it is, maybe with some changes like 'be a member for a while before voting and not allow recent members to vote' as someone said above. This world is full of cheater, it would be great to stop them but it's not an easy taek; but we cannot let them disorder this site either. I also concur with those that don't care about the prize, the real prize is to be in the top 10. So Mark, if you can make some little arragements and let us vote as always, it would be good for me.

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 08:42 PM

This is my second post on this subject as well.

The current system is great for all the reasons cited above - enjoyment of voting, pleasure at actually getting into the final 10, ecstacy at getting more than one vote - winning would probably give me palpitations!

We should not let the cheats (if they exist!) spoil it - they basically have no respect for any of us who cast our votes with care and thought.

I would love the current system to continue BUT restrict the voting somehow to those who have not signed in that particular week. This would prevent someone in the final 10 having any incentive to spawn multiple personnas cool.gif ph34r.gif or get family/friends to sign up. But can this be done easily with software?

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Posted 15 November 2007 - 11:25 PM

we should learn the cheats and BEAT them.

plus i agree with carmen we are missing a week that is not fair, and for what. you should not chane a thing just put it back please.!

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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:20 AM

I vote for option 1 - Editor's choice.



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Posted 16 November 2007 - 10:13 AM

I agree with Desert Pea and some others. I like the original system for several reasons.

1) It was nice to see the selection every week of photos that otherwise i might have missed by not going to all the galleries

2)Being part of it was always good fun.

3)If you were selected for the top 10 you had more chance of others seeing yor photo and perhaps offering comments and ratings to it that you may not have otherwise got.

4)despite the few cheats i think it is one of the fairest ways for it to be decided with a cross section of peoples opinions and prefernces making up the vote.

I would be interested to know if despite the ability to cheat if there is any evidence to suggest that certain individuals have worked it that they have won time and time again..

I think on the whole the system works and most people on here play this competition fairly.

So my vote is keep it the same.

If it has to be an alternative then i say multiple judges. no offense mark but just agree that it needs different points of view.


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