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At a local feeding station where people have been feeding the birds for decades and Coal Tits will feed from your hand.


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Date: Tue December 4, 2012
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angela taylor
a very nice Nuthatch capture,i only see them flying away. Angela
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#1 Tue December 4, 2012 11:34am

aperdan
Good shot Alan.
#2 Tue December 4, 2012 1:04pm

redrum
I like the position of the Nuthatch but I feel the image lacks sharpness, this may be due to a too slow shutter speed for the lens used or this is a quite heavy crop from the original image also the eye has been lost due to the back lighting which may have helped from a belt of on board flash just to create a highlight in the eye, this is just my opinion, I still like the shot.
> John
#3 Tue December 4, 2012 5:54pm

purple_fringing
Thanks, guys.


Yes, John, Heavy crop and from the original raw file I've pulled out as much detail from the shadows as was possible before it all started to look a bit HDR. Flash? I take your point but balancing the tiny amount required is tricky especially when the subject isn't really a good sitter... I'd rather see what I can pull out in post-processing.
#4 Tue December 4, 2012 6:00pm

angela taylor
I have enjoyed the exchange of ideas,on how put put some light on the bird,Alan you said its a raw file,couldnt you have used the fill light slider or if you use photoshop try highlights and shadows,twiddle the slider's to get desired results,just my opinion. Angela
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#5 Tue December 4, 2012 7:49pm

jamest
Nice shot.
#6 Tue December 4, 2012 10:21pm

TheBebop
really like this photo, and as others have said you can improve it by brushing in some light onto the bird. if you use fill light be careful, you can "wash out" your photo
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#7 Tue December 4, 2012 11:33pm

BOBWED
Love how the fine bokeh frames the bird. Super capture.
#8 Wed December 5, 2012 2:49am

purple_fringing
Thanks again folks, but I can see a little further explanation is required.


So I'm sitting in this stone-built rest (think "cave") and the birds are flitting around the entrance, strongly back-lit as you can see from the rim-lighting on its back. There's virtually no direct lighting on the front of the bird and the "undeveloped" raw file is little more than a silhouette.


First, there's John's suggestion of a flash to illuminate the darkness, but that's my choice - there are so many pictures around where the fill flash just overwhelms and you get the "rabbit in the headlights" look


I didn't add a fill light as per Angela's suggestion but the raw converter I used pulls out detail from shadows while leaving the rest of the photo virtually untouched and I didn't want to wash out the strong Autumnal colours.


After that, it's a balancing act. Your brain can see it's backlit and should be darker than the background but the "reality" version is far too dark for any detail to show on a photo. The balance I was after is an image which doesn't look manipulated (and given that several of you think it could stand a little adjustment, I think I just about achieved that much!)


The adjustment slider still had a long way to go - I was only half way up but that's where I decided to stop before it all came over a bit too HDR.


Maybe, the best solution would have been to get off my backside and shoot from a different angle. Too lazy.


Hope that explains my reasoning.
Alan


PS Bonus point to Bob for loving the background!
#9 Wed December 5, 2012 9:41am

angela taylor
Alan i understand better after the explaination,if the raw file was as dark as you say,you have done well to get it as light as you have,without any noise,its been interesting and i like the shot,thank you. Angela
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#10 Wed December 5, 2012 11:32am

redrum
I would just like to say that my suggestion was only to use the flash to put a highlight in the eye and not to illuminate the Nuthatch, the eye would have picked up the smallest amount of light from the flash and give life to the eye.
> John
#11 Wed December 5, 2012 11:44am

purple_fringing
Hi John,


Yep, I do understand that's what you are saying but it's just getting that fine balance right.


Cheers,
Alan
#12 Wed December 5, 2012 12:00pm

jayarajartist@gmail.com
very nice photo friend.
#13 Wed December 5, 2012 4:02pm




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