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feederback
Hi Vlad,


Thanks for this example of sharpness. I think im getting the idea.
Just to let you know that I am very new to this subject.
These recent postings are images taken during my first 3 outings with my new camera so im a complete novice.
I would prefer constructive critique rather than harsh commentary if thats ok.
For future reference you can use "He" when referring to me.


Thanks again for this example.
#1 Sat April 26, 2008 9:10pm

Vo1968
Hello, feederback, glad to meet you personally! ))) Good, we can change "it is fantastically beautiful", "so amazing tones" to constructive critique. In fact, it is the best way to improve your skills. But, unfortunately, it is not typical for most photography sites, including this one. I know the only site with classical, b/w photography on which all the comments are mostly constructive critique (sometimes, drastic) from quite professional and creative photographers but it is in Russian (( (http://photo-element.ru/albums/index.php?cat=0). Another way to improve the skills is to explore the sites like www.magnumphotos.com, especially classics of photography like Cartier-Bresson(http://www.magnumphotos.com/Archive/C.aspx?VP=XSpecific_MAG.StaticPage_VPage&SP=photographers_list&l1=0&XXAPXX=SubPanel10). Imho, of course. Thank you.
#2 Sat April 26, 2008 9:38pm

Vo1968
http://www.altphotos.com/Gallery.aspx?browseby=toprated24 is quite creative among the sites where you can post your photos... and learn photography looking the photos made by quite experienced people
#3 Sat April 26, 2008 9:59pm

richard crowe
Hi feederback. I think you may have got off on the wrong foot here! Smile You say you are a novice and that is fine - this is a great site to learn on and you are most welcome to do so. I know that I have learnt a lot here. But with reference to your comment above - you did ask for it! I have seen a couple of photos where you have given a rating of 3 and that is what the problem has been so far. There is no problem giving a 3 if it is a bad photo. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean it is bad. Especially because you are a novice, it is not necessarily a good idea to give 3's and not give a comment to back up why you have given it. It will only cause tension which I'm sure is not the intention. Personally I never give ratings, I just leave a comment saying if I like it or if I dont and giving the reasons why.


So welcome to the site and keep taking pictures and hopefully you will learn a lot while you are here and make some new friends. (Giving 3 ratings, however, is most likely not the way to go about it! Smile )
Richard Crowe

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#4 Sat April 26, 2008 10:41pm

feederback
Thats totally understandable Richard and I can see how someone might be easily offended by a low rating. The intention was not to cause friction as has been percieved. However I am somewhat baffled by the fact that your name is logged as giving the rating after doing so. I will leave comment in future after giving a low rating. Maybe the ratings should begin at 5 lol. This would avoid anyone being offended. Smile
I do remember leaving a 3 rating on an image of a man looking in through a shop window. The reason I gave this rating was because I felt it was quite out of focus and even as a novice I know that the photography community as a whole aim to capture images in focus most of the time. I have no problems whatsoever with people leaving low ratings on my photos as long as I receive some progressive, respectable, well informed criticism which will point me in the right direction and help me understand the basics about photography.
Thanks for the welcome and I hope you like some of my future photos. I will try and avoid giving any low ratings.
I can see that Vlad is a keen photographer so I think I will wait in future to see what others say first.
Also want to say thanks to Vlad for referring me to these sites mentioned above. Smile
#5 Tue April 29, 2008 12:11am

Vo1968
Thanks, feederback! Low rating is always not very nice thing for any person who gets it ))) But, at the same time, it can be extremely useful - in the case if it is from a real master. For me, it would be a sign that I made something wrong and I must find the mistake. As Richard wrote rating is not a choice between "I like" and "I don't like". It implies an ability to understand and, as a result, to evaluate correctly. If you are a beginner in photography how can you say 'it's a bad shot'? What is the ground for your ambitions? I was not offended, feederback, I accepted your challenge and fighted you Wink Welcome to the site! )))
#6 Thu May 1, 2008 9:34pm

feederback
Only very sensitive people cannot deal with low ratings, however a true master in my opinion can argue the point and explain why the observer may have thought that the work in question may have deserved a higher rating. I, however felt that the image in question deserved a low rating based on my opinion and if that is not possible to do on this site then maybe I should go elsewhere where I am not marginalised for giving an opinion regardless of whether I am an novice or pro.
This is the type of contentious behaviour would be expected in the average workplace and leads to a lack of creativity due to the arrogance of a select few. Firstly the fact that I did not even get a response from Richard indicates a lack of respect for a beginner in this subject and secondly you Vlad, and your very immature comments, likening this to a fight !! Lol. How rediculous. Just goes to show that really this is not the place where adult photographers congregate. With the exception of: artfulpics, chappo1, vab and Amandart of course.
Let me ask you a question Vlad. What is a real master in your opinion? I think many people have different ideas about that question. Does not mean all of them are true. But unfortunately the majority are bound by a conservative view of art and especially photography it seems. Your not good becuase you think your work is good. Your good becuase someone tells you. They may be the master but they have their own opinions. And so its never understood.
Stop looking for reassurence Vlad and do your own thing...:)
Hope you get where I am coming from and dont become too upset. Thanks again.
#7 Thu May 29, 2008 11:12pm

desertpea
Is this an appropriate use of the Gallery? Perhaps this discussion would be more appropriate by PM or in the Forum. Jan
http://janpudney.net/
http://jaypea.redbubble.com/
#8 Thu May 29, 2008 11:33pm




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