Canon started the G-series when Apple Macintosh started theirs, so
now that Apple Macintosh have ended their G-series, it is only fitting
that Canon would end theirs.
GARY POGODA at 06:23pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2006
The Pro 1 is also to be discontunued:
Josh at 11:09pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2006
"The S-series cameras and the falling prices of Canon’s DSLRs have effectively replaced... [snip]"
I don't really care... as long as they come with a Sxx Camera that has a stabilized '24-120' f/2-3 lens on a 1/1.8" sensor +flip&twist; LCD and a good grip.
...wether they name it "S7" or "G7" is not my cup of tea. I just need the features... :-D ...COME ON CANON! (or Ricoh, Olympus, Panasonic, Nikon...)
Olivier_G at 11:57pm on Tuesday, February 21, 2006
It's good that they're removing the duplication across their product lines.
I mean the Sxx series and the Pro1 were seriously stepping on each others toes, as were the G series and the A5xx series..
Jules at 12:25am on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Really disappointed. Hoped Canon would show something to compete with the Sony DSC-R1..
Arthur Arts at 02:48pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
So, to get a Canon with external flash ability now, it has to be a SLR. Does any other manufacturer offer one, non SLR?
Fred Martin at 03:24pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Fred, the Canon PowerShot S3 IS, SD700, and A700 all offer the same
high power flash accessory; however, don't ask me how it attaches.
Arthur, I do not think a G7, with its 1/1.8" CCD, would have competed
with the Sony R1's APS-C CMOS Image Sensor. They are miles apart.
GARY POGODA at 06:15pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Arthur, I see from another thread you were talking about a new Pro2.
This would have been closer than a G7 to an R1, but still a long way
to go as far as the image sensor is concerned.
GARY POGODA at 06:26pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
[[ all offer the same
high power flash accessory; however, don't ask me how it attaches. ]]
It attaches by way of bracket that mounts to the tripod mount. It's designed to flash with the on-camera flash and it's designed to not be fooled by the pre-flash.
phule at 08:14pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Alas, the G series has succumbed to the fate of all things electronic--obsolescence! Now we must look to the photographic horizon for the rise of the next silicon imager.
Al Aymer at 11:09pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
I know the Pro1 cannot compete with the R1, but I was hoping Canon would come up with a Pro2-type of camera that would be in the same league. The G7 is a different beast altogether, but it's disappointing that Canon hasn't introduced a new semi-pro fixed lens camera since 2004.
Arthur Arts at 11:11pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
[[ Fred, the Canon PowerShot S3 IS, SD700, and A700 all offer the same
high power flash accessory ]]
I agree that they offer a small slave flash, but no model of Canon rangefinder has a flash shoe anymore, which I think is a loss. No powerful flash anymore.
Fred Martin at 11:25pm on Wednesday, February 22, 2006
Thank ####### goodness.
I was getting tired of all the the "Gangsta" mentality behind the name of all things "G" - I had it up to here with the whole G-thang!
and hopefully Pontiac would stop with their shite too.
AA at 03:27am on Thursday, February 23, 2006
They blew it for me. The G6 is still my favourite camera because it has all the controls I need, a flash shoe which works with my 550EX and 420EX, manual controls and a terrific macro mode, 1/1.8" CCD, flip/twist/swivel screen and excellent image quality.
The batteries and CF cards work with my DSLR so that's a huge plus. With the S / A series we'd now be on different batteries and media. Yucks.
No shitty S series or A series camera can replace that. This is a sad loss.
Insomniac at 04:22am on Wednesday, March 01, 2006
bollocks!!! what am i going to do with the G seires specific 58mm thread lenses???!!!! at least the speedlights are compatible with dSLRs
elmer fudd at 09:52pm on Thursday, March 02, 2006
In addition to the flip/tilt screen, external flash capability, great macro mode, I find the REMOTE CONTROL to be extremely useful and a camera without it to be nearly useless to me.
When shooting macro or night shots or self portraits, it makes all the difference in the world to remotely trigger the shot. Camera shake or critical movement in macro shots is eliminated.
None of the newer non SLR by canon have that do they?
charlie at 05:06am on Sunday, March 05, 2006
In my opinion the biggest advantage the G series have, is the ability to use external flash unit like one of the speedlites, especially if u can tilt it in 45 degrees, instead of usiIn my opinion the biggest advantage the G series have, is the ability to use external flash unit like one of the speedlites, especially if u can tilt it in 45 degrees, instead of using the built in tiny flash.
If only the S2 IS or S3 IS had such a hot shoe on top, it would have been the best
Maybe next year, when the S4 IS will arrive
ng the built in tiny flash.
If only the S2 IS or S3 IS had such a hot shoe on top, it would have been the best
Maybe next year, when the S4 IS will arrive
Yoram Monrof at 09:39am on Saturday, April 22, 2006
It appears that I will have to give up on waiting for the G7. I thought, for a moment, that the S3 would be the answer, but, alas, no hot shoe.
I am still using my G2 black. It has been an outstanding camera!
Phil Salisbury at 09:34pm on Tuesday, May 02, 2006
G5-G6 were best cameras for outdoor, travels etc.: low size, low weight plus RAW-format
schleicher at 06:12am on Thursday, May 11, 2006
S Series and DSLR can substitute G Series? Are those xxxking officials in Canon have something wrong in their brain?
S Series just lack of a hot-shoe for external flash which make me feel mad (don't talk to me about that high power flash accessory...that's no good...)
DSLR...which DSLR has a flip-able LCD as viewfinder??? And is the size really comparable for DSLR and G Series???
I think they should think more deeply and do some marketing research...meanwhile, I'd better stick with my lovely G3...
Tim Ng at 04:47pm on Saturday, May 20, 2006
I've been holding out for a replacement for my G3. I suppose Canon doesn't mind the loss of a loyal customer. Their S series and DSLR cameras are NOT suitable replacements for the G series. I just want a hot shoe w/TTL capability. A fast fixed lens ( ya know.. like the f2.0 I'm used to) with an articulated LCD. The ability to shoot RAW when I feel like it. I was going to buy a G6, but I wanted the advantages offered by the DIGIC II electronics. Now they're impossible to find or too damned expensive.
I recently got some hands on with an S3. In a word, yuck. I really don't like the dot-matrix looking EVF. My current CF cards would be useless. There is no wireless remote. Cutesy pop-up flash doesn't cut it. It does indeed have a nice movie mode utilizing an obsolete encoding scheme though.
As it stands, I don't really see any manufacturer with a good replacement for the G series. Don't even mumble anything about DSLR... not even in the same ballpark.
Krusty at 04:00am on Monday, June 05, 2006
I know what you mean, Krusty. I am still using my G3 as well. But I
refuse to give up on Canon. I have faith they will eventually see the
light, and release the long-awaited G4. :)
GARY POGODA at 04:25am on Monday, June 05, 2006
GARY POGODA...is that should be G7??? :sick:
Tim Ng at 05:19am on Monday, June 05, 2006
so guys what is the alternative to g3 right now??
( i was stupid enough to sell mine )
i cant find a damg6 anywhere
Yunus at 01:01pm on Monday, July 17, 2006
so guys whats the best alternative to a g3 ?
i was stoopid enough to sell mine and cant find any g6's
Yunus at 01:02pm on Monday, July 17, 2006
I gave up on the G7 and bought a reman G7 from Norman Camera for $450. I have dealt with Norman Camera for many years and have been very pleased with their service.
Phil Salisbury at 05:00pm on Monday, July 17, 2006
The loss of the "G" Series is monumental.
There isn't a camera by any manufacturer that can compare when taking allbenefits of the "G" Series into consideration.
What could have persuaded Canon to make such a decision?
Is it possible that the "G" Series cameras were not profitable for Canon?
One positive aspect, I will not have to buy a new camera, my G6 will suffice.
Joseph at 04:32pm on Thursday, August 24, 2006
i have a CANON G6 and i must say that the only thing that irritates me about it is the SLOW Digic Imaging Engine . everything else is AOK including the camera body aesthetics which is the way I like it - ROBUST ! now that the new G7 is introduced , i am a bit turned off by its thinner and lighter looks plus the absence of RAW capture. the LCD may have been enlarged but Canon no longer made it articulated . also , the new G7 looks rather ungainly when paired with the Speedlites due to a mismatch in bodily proportions. i wish that Canon had just incorporated all the major tech upgrades into the old G6 body and had just rebadged it as the new G7. i am not at all attracted to its black color as well as its cluttered top deck controls which were only made equally worse by confusedly laid-out labels/function icons . Canon could yet learn a thing or two from the industrial designers of Leica M8 DIGITAL RANGEFINDER CAMERA - A UNDERSTATED WORK OF ART ! by the way , i think one can still find CANON G6s sold in HONGKONG either brand new or at second hand shops . happy hunting , gentlemen !
CARL HAMILTON at 08:45pm on Thursday, September 14, 2006
I just cannot imagine why Canon opt to introduce the G7 series.
In my point of view, G7 has miss out many characteristics of G series...flip-able LCD, low F-value, ability to take RAW pics...
Why not Canon add hot-shoes to A640 and simply kill the G series? lol
Tim Ng at 08:24am on Friday, September 15, 2006
I just read about the new G7, and all I can say is "What were they thinking?!" What a total come-down! I agree with the previous poster who said they should have just taken the G6 and added the latest and greatest technology. They also should have made it available in silver OR black. That rotating LCD is really hard to live without, and here they go and get rid of it! I also love the large grip--GONE! Jeez. Although I have DSLR, is still LOVE my G6 and still use it quite a bit. I was really hoping for a viable upgrade for when mine dies. Well, there is still hope. Maybe Canon will wakeup and smelled all the ticked off people.
Alanna at 04:44pm on Friday, September 15, 2006
Oh dear gods! they have ruined the G series with the G7. Tiny lense, fixed LCD (sure it's bigger, but come on, the moving LCD was a big selling point for me), fstop limited to 2.8 to 4.8, not the 2.0 to 8.0 of the G6. I have to say, even with 10 Megapixels to my G6's 7.1 Megapixels and fancy new digic III processing and 1600 ISO speed, this seems like a down grade to me from the G6. And someone said no RAW images? Please tell me that's a joke. And just as compact flash gets speed with 80x cards, they switched to SD? Who the hell is in charge of Canon's camera division?
If it had the same basic features as a G6 with an improved CCD it might be worth $599, but this thing is more like one of their A series or SD series cameras took a few steroids and headed off to do battle.
The G series is, sadly, dead. The "G7" is not worthy of the name.
Scott Marlowe at 05:56am on Saturday, September 16, 2006
regarding the f-stop being limited to 4.8 is only reasonable. whenever i shot above f5, i the pic lost sharpness due to the iris becoming a diffraction lens. I ended up getting a 30D, but would have liked to continue with the G series in studio settings. the flippable LCD, RAW and the level of control. I would have preferred they fixed a bit the noise and used a ccd that covered more greens and maybe added some resolution. I loved the chunky G5, but it's starting to age and it's slow like molassess.
elmer fudd at 06:37am on Saturday, September 16, 2006
elmer, I've never had that kind of problem, although I tend to use manual focus with higher fstop settings. I wonder if you were just experiencing the more common problem the G6 seems to have with autofocus at higher fstop settings. I've certainly noticed that when in reduced light and / or higher fstop settings myself. But there are just so many shots that really only worked with my G6 in pinhole mode.
I just keep looking at the lense on the G7 and thinking that it's not really from the same family as the other G series cameras.
Scott Marlowe at 08:20pm on Saturday, September 16, 2006
the most egregious was a landscape shot in wide angle at f8 on a calm evening. all taken with a tripod. it had already happened before so i made sure it was set to a low iso and kept it below 1/10 to avoid nois as much as possible. I was a G5 so maybe it's getting old… I didn't like how it rendered greens as well.
elmer fudd at 04:19pm on Sunday, September 17, 2006
elmer, the G6 does the exact same thing at high Fstop settings with autofocus on.
But I've never had a problem with greens unless the white balance was off.
Scott Marlowe at 04:25pm on Sunday, September 17, 2006
afaik i had set it focus to infinite: didn't rely on auto as i was testing the camera. taking studio portraits on the otherhand was great and sharp at low f-stops. i always shoot raw. THe greens are darker than should be and lack nuance and definition. i didn't boder much before, but comparing some colour profiles of the g5 and the rebel or eos 30, the colour gamut available shows a heavy clip on the greens but a larger reach in the red/magenta range.
elmer fudd at 05:57pm on Sunday, September 17, 2006
you have a neophyte here.
I am planning to buy my FIRST digital camera this December.
I want a model that is sort of not yet a DSLR but way more advanced than the compact point-and-shoot models available now.
The G7 caught my eye and I already had my heart set on getting it.
But reading on what you guys are saying, you who seem to be long-time canon users (and followers of the G-series), I feel like I should opt for some other model instead...
More insight from you would be appreciated.
Mic at 06:39am on Tuesday, October 17, 2006
get a 350D with stock lens or if you want to afford it a 400d. you're better off in the end as you can experiment with more lenses. The prices of dSLRs have come down quite a bit since i bought my G5.
elmer fudd at 07:27am on Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Mic, as a neophyte, I assume that you will want something along the
lines of a point & shoot, but one you can grow into with more manual
controls. It also sounds like you want something with excellent image
quality, and are willing to pay a bit more to get it. I doubt you'll want
to use such advanced features as RAW. More important are features
such as higher zoom and image stabilization.
If the above scenario comes even close, then a G7 will be the perfect
camera for you. :)
GARY POGODA at 04:23pm on Tuesday, October 17, 2006
Mic, you have two choices. The first is to go "down" from the G7 to the A6xx series. You can get a very good 8-10 mp camera in that series for $275 to $350 or so from places like Amazon. That camera has most of the features the G7 has, minus image stab and flash shoe, and is a good camera to carry around in your bag when you don't wanna drag along an SLR.
Then, when you're ready to step up, the 350/400D series are a very good choice, where you can buy lenses, flashes, and all the other stuff you'd want for "serious" photography.
Also, if you're on a budget, I've seen good shape EOS 30s going quite cheap on ebay. They may not be 10 megapixels, but they take damned fine pictures, and can use real lenses and flashes and all that stuff. I've been thinking of picking one up myself actually.
Scott Marlowe at 03:21am on Wednesday, October 18, 2006
I'm getting a strange feeling that Canon may be announcing something new in the DSLR line before Christmas, competition is getting tight, their R&D is constantly at work......IMHO
nick in japan at 06:16am on Wednesday, October 18, 2006
Mic, the A640/A630 are good cameras, but they also do not have the
G7's 6x zoom. It's the G7's 6x zoom and image stabilization that give
it the edge over the A640/A630.
Nick has an excellent point. It's always good to wait till the last minute
Be aware that there is a push on this thread to 'punish' Canon for not
making the G7 a worthy successor to the G6, but for your purposes, I
still think the G7 is unbeatable.
Reasonable minds may differ. :)
GARY POGODA at 10:26am on Wednesday, October 18, 2006
Personally, I think this camera would do a lot better if it hadn't been called the G7. By calling in a G7, people automatically compare it to the previous G series cameras. If they had announced that it was the beginning of the new H-series, people would start marvelling at the big 2.5" screen instead of being annoyed that it doesn't swivel.
Wasn't it Shakespeare that said "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet?"
I just think that people are comparing it to the G6 more than necessary, and not judging the camera on it's own merits.
Mike Hwang at 11:41am on Saturday, October 21, 2006
Well said, Mike.
"There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." :)
(Hamlet, Act II, Scene II)
GARY POGODA at 12:20pm on Saturday, October 21, 2006
Mike, I think it's two fold. One, yes, they called it a G series and it doesn't really qualify.
However, far more important, they're asking $599 for it! Sorry, but it just doesn't strike me as $599 worth of camera.$350 to $450 maybe. For $599 I expect more than what the G7 delivers.
Scott Marlowe at 04:11pm on Saturday, October 21, 2006
GARY POGODA, I don't wish to "punish" Canon. I just don't think the G7 is that great of a camera. If image stabilization and 6x zoom are important, then the A710 is a good answer. It's got both of those and is only going for $328.
Again, I don't hate Canon, I don't want to punish them. I just think $599 is WAY too much for the G7 when you can pick up the A710 for about half that and spend the extra on your vacation or whatever else.
Scott Marlowe at 10:30pm on Sunday, October 22, 2006
Scott, do you recall posting the following comment?
"I think the only way to really make our point is to not buy the G7, and to tell our friends looking at it to look at the A630/A640 series, which other than image stabilization and the flash mount, are easily a match for the G7. Sadly, poor sales of the G7 may lead the Canon execs to believe that the G series has reached the end of its useful life and stop production."
The A710 is a good choice, but does not have the higher performance and
additional features offered by the G7's DIGIC III, nor does it have the high
resolution LCD, the hot-shoe, the SR lens coating, and the 1/1.8" CCD of the
G7. As to whether these benefits of the G7 are worth the extra $250 ... you
may have a point.
GARY POGODA at 04:09am on Monday, October 23, 2006
Gary, I very clearly recall what I said. And it's not about punishing Canon. I don't want people paying $599 for a camera that's hardly worth $400 or so. Maybe if people realize that this camera isn't worth the asking price, Canon will then get the point that they've left out some features on this camera that they really shouldn't have and change it. It's not like they're errant school children or something. Honestly, leaving out RAW mode is unforgiveable and short sighted, and it would cost them nothing to include it. That move alone drops the G7 from being worthy of the series name.
I thought there'd be more, not fewer features on the G7, but it really feels like a step back in many ways. sad really.
Scott Marlowe at 01:27pm on Monday, October 23, 2006
the G series doesn't make any sense any more ::period::
it reminds me of the car brand take-overs in the 90's when Ford took over MG and turned it into a tub-on-wheels.
The G series was evolving into a pro-sumer model with lens attached. they should have added a cmos sensor (slightly larger than present if possible) and kept the other features. as is it's just a cumbersome camera. it had features that dSLRs [do|can]not have live swivel screen, permanent lens with a set of extenders… and the features that gave you a bit of latitude: raw and hotshoe.
i'm not boycotting the G series. For me it's an evolutionary dead-end. i recommend anybody half-interested in photography to try an affordable dSLR, maybe second-hand: once you get into the lens business, that's a tempting hefty investment…
if you're trying your hand at photography, these cameras are limiting in ISO, noise, speed, raw etc…
i have nothing against canon, i ended getting a canon dslr and started investing in lenses after the G5, but this G7 is a joke!
elmer fudd at 05:52pm on Monday, October 23, 2006
I have ordered a G7. I'm an owner of a G1, G2, G6 and now G7. Each has been an improvement, and in my opinion, the G7 does more of what I want than my G6 does.
I use my cameras mostly for point and shoot, though on occasion, I'll try to get creative. I mostly take family pictures (what passes for stills where kids are involved and frequent "kid" videos). It would be a significant oversight, I think, not to mention the improved movie mode of this camera (in addition to higher optical zoom, pixel count, DIGIC III chip, potential for 1600 speed and image stabilization). Without trying it out, I can't say how well each of these has been implemented, so there is that caveat. I'm happy about the continued presence of a hotshoe, too.
I can honestly say that RAW format only once gave me additional information in an image and that it was quite subtle. Additional information to me means additional quality in a print. Understand that I'm an imaging Physicist, not a professional photographer. All the same, I'll shed no tears for RAW.
Pivoting screen? I've used it perhaps a dozen times over the years. I'll miss it proportionally, I suppose.
So... Canon must have had me in mind when they designed this camera as I'm quite thrilled with what I'll be getting. ;-)
Brent at 06:43am on Sunday, October 29, 2006
So YOU'RE the one they had in mind. I thought it was just me. :)
GARY POGODA at 08:57am on Sunday, October 29, 2006
Gee guys, thanks for your opinions.
Honestly, my mind is almost made up on getting the G7.
I love the fact that it has a hotshoe and that it supports some (limited) lens attachments.
I don't think I would like to be doing post processing (for now) so RAW is not really a deal-breaker for me.
Mic at 03:08am on Tuesday, October 31, 2006
I just bought a G7 and it's really good. I already had a Rebel 350 and intended to use the G7 for spare, but right now I am very impressed with the quality of the pictures taken with G7 that I can match only with my best lens with Rebel. Really good camera toped only by Leica M8 (around 5000$)
mircea at 06:27am on Wednesday, November 15, 2006
I own a G3, and over the last few years have enjoyed the respect the G series has commanded in all its upgrades to the G6.When I heard there was going to be a 10mp G7 I got very excited and thought it's time to upgrade , I'm going to get some of this !
But all the reviews and the negetive talk about this camera,and what is missing,has really put me off.
So now I am going to sit tight and wait for the review of the Canon G10 that will be everything my G3 is in looks and feel but will be better than any other compacts like the G series used to be!
Chris West at 12:24am on Sunday, December 03, 2006
Like everyone else here, I've been going nuts to try and justify why I should buy the new Canon G7.
Well, I just did a google search, and found an explanation why Canon opted to not include the Raw ability in this camera. For those of you who may not have come across this article yet, it's worth reading. I might decide to buy it now - but only at Costco - because of their terrific return policy - can't beat it. And the great thing is that you pay just a little more than the cheapest price you'll find anywhere - but with peace of mind.
Here's the link:
Les at 10:56pm on Sunday, December 10, 2006
Les, if you believe that, then there would be no reason for Canon not
to appease their customer base by putting Raw back in the G7 with a
firmware upgrade, would there?
GARY POGODA at 11:18pm on Sunday, December 10, 2006
My G6, which I loved, just got stolen and all the G6 cameras appear to have sold out.. I need to get it in time for next tuesday as I'm going away on fieldwork. Pivoting screen preferable - I use it for archaeology work and have to photograph small finds a lot and that was v.v.handy, but also outdoors loads too so sturdy essential as is image quality obviously as its for work so RAW format preferable too. I don't want to downgrade.. but I've never owned a DSLR before,and concerned I won't have time to learn before er next week..! I have used one a bit for work but that was in a basement photographing pots and didn't take too much ingenuity to figure out..
would really appreciate some advice..
Helen at 11:17am on Monday, September 03, 2007
I just looked on amazon.com and they have 3 used G6s available.
It's rather telling that a new G7 is going for $505 with warranty while the G6 in used - like new condition is going for $595, $649, and $799 on amazon.
However, Canon is now making the G9, which is the replacement for the G7, and it DOES have raw mode. There's a notice on here about it, but no review yet.
Plus: Return of raw mode, image stabilization, 6x zoom
Minus: No swing out screen.
If you need a swing out screen and a decent camera, you might want to consider the A650IS. It has most of the features of the G7 minus the hot shoe.
I've found the A series run a pretty long time on a set of rechargable AA batteries, which are plentiful and cheap.
Scott Marlowe at 04:02pm on Monday, September 03, 2007
The G9 looks fantastic. Someone has tried it?.
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