Canon G7

September 30, 2006 | Mark Goldstein | Digital Compact Cameras | 227 Comments |

Canon PowerShot G7The new Canon G7 features a 10 megapixel, 1/1.8 inch sensor, DIGIC III image processor, Face Detection, 35-210mm lens and optical image stabilization system. The Canon G7 will be available in October 2006 for $599.99 / £449.00 / €649.99.

Canon USA Press Release

Canon Combines Top-Tier Tech and Classic Camera Design into Line Leading 10-Megapixel Canon PowerShot G7 Digital Camera

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y.—Sept. 14, 2006—The Canon PowerShot G7 digital camera, the new flagship of Canon’s ever popular fleet of PowerShot digital cameras will be sailing into stores beginning in October, equipped with a boatload of Canon’s newest technological achievements and user-friendly features and carrying an estimated selling price of $599.99.* Designed to delight even the most die-hard photo enthusiast, the 10-megapixel Canon G7 digital camera continues the tradition of imaging excellence, innovation and ease of use that began when the PowerShot G1 was introduced a mere six years ago.

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Compact and comfortable to hold, handle and use, the PowerShot G7 digital camera is an aesthetic treat as well, harking back to the look and feel of classic Canon cameras. From its retro “wet black matte finish,” leather-toned grip and the detailed knurling and analog-style “click-click” of the camera’s top side ISO Speed Dial and Shooting Mode Dial, to the stylish metallic accents of the body’s aluminum-finish parts and metallic-finish bayonet ring, this PowerShot G7 conveys a sense of “camera-ness” rarely encountered in the world of digital photography. Photo panache and feel appeal not withstanding, the PowerShot G7 remains true to the G-Class tradition by offering an array of the industry’s advanced photographic features.

“In the PowerShot G7 we have created the ultimate prosumer compact digital camera for the discerning hobbyist, the photo enthusiast and for those who require uncompromising photo quality for business and industrial applications,” states Yukiaki Hashimoto, senior vice president and general manager of the consumer imaging group at Canon U.S.A., Inc. “Faster, more responsive, more efficient and easier to use, thanks to Canon’s proprietary new DIGIC III image processor and a newly enhanced and intuitive user interface, the PowerShot G7 digital camera also offers users a greater level of creative control and flexible shooting options than ever before.”

The Eyes Have It
The “brain” of the new camera is DIGIC III, the newest iteration of Canon’s ultra-efficient (and proprietary) image processor. Making its debut on the PowerShot G7 digital camera (along with Canon’s three newest Digital ELPH models) the DIGIC III chip accounts for the camera’s higher performance levels including faster start up, autofocus and shutter response times, and of course, improved image quality and more efficient power consumption; resulting in extended battery life under typical shooting conditions.

What’s more, thanks to the DIGIC III chip’s more aggressive noise reduction, the PowerShot G7 digital camera is able to shoot at ISO equivalent speed ratings from 80 to as high as 1600. This increased sensitivity at the top-end allows users to select faster shutter speeds, significantly reducing camera shake and subject blur during hand held low-light photography.

With Canon’s new Face Detection AF/AE technology (working in concert with Canon’s 9-point Autofocus system), the camera can detect, lock on and track up to nine human faces in a scene simply by pressing the shutter button halfway. The face detection algorithm automatically prioritizes and selects the optimum subject and not simply the closest face (based on Canon’s Intelligent Scene Analysis/iSAPS technology). It will then optimize the focus and exposure to ensure the best possible results for even easier picture taking moments.

Reflections in an Image Stabilized Glass Eye
True to Canon’s tradition of optical excellence, the PowerShot G7 digital camera is equipped with a fast and sharp f/2.8-4.8 6X optical zoom lens (35-210mm, 35mm equivalent). Canon’s specialized SR coating augments the all glass lens, the first time this lens coating technology has been applied in a compact digital camera. In combination with the lens’ aspherical elements, the SR coating helps reduce flare and ghosting, delivering a cleaner image to the camera’s CCD sensor in the process. The precision lens also features an extreme macro setting that focuses down to one centimeter.

The PowerShot G7 digital camera also features a Lens-Shift type optical image stabilization system that can help defeat the effects of camera shake in low light situations, or while shooting handheld. This optical image stabilization system is based on advancements made in the development of Canon’s EF lenses and video lenses. Unlike electronic or “digital image stabilization systems” that typically degrade image quality, the PowerShot G7 digital camera’s lens shift-type preserves maximum optical performance while providing up to three stops of shake correction in shutter speed equivalent.

The PowerShot G7 digital camera’s new 1.4x/2.3x, onboard, digital tele-converter achieves the digital equivalent of having an actual teleconverter lens attached to the camera. The camera also offers a new Safety Zoom that enables non-stop digital zoom operation at reduced resolution settings up to the maximum magnification possible before the image begins to degrade. Optional optical wide-angle (WC-DC58B), telephoto (TC-DC58C) and close-up (58mm 250D) supplementary lenses are also available for the PowerShot G7 digital camera.**

Admiring the View
The PowerShot G7 digital camera is equipped with a newly enhanced, 2.5- inch color LCD screen with approximately 207,000 pixels, a wide viewing angle and 15 brightness settings making it easier to read the display menus and easier to preview and review subjects and scenes. Adding to the ease of composing a picture in the proper print proportion, the PowerShot G7 is appointed with optional grid lines and a 3:2 aspect ratio print display overlay. Simply put, this convenient composition guide overlays horizontal gray bars at the top and bottom of the LCD screen so that photographers can compose and shoot their images in the proportion best suited to the print size they wish to make (typically 4"x 6”).

Making Special Scenes
When it comes to special scenes, the PowerShot G7 camera makes a quantum leap over its predecessor with the addition of 13 new modes for a variety of scenic shooting situations. Notable among the special scene modes (which include portrait, night snapshot, kids & pets, indoor, foliage, snow, beach and fireworks settings etc.) are the new ISO 3200 and Aquarium settings that permit low light, no-flash photography in situations where using a flash would ruin a picture by bouncing back off aquarium glass or other reflective surfaces. For those whose photographic passions take them beyond the water’s edge and beneath its surface, the PowerShot G7 camera also has an underwater special scene mode. In order to actually take the camera underwater, users must safely ensconce it in the optional waterproof case WP-DC11, specifically designed for the PowerShot G7 and rated safe to depths of up to 130 feet.

Improving upon Excellence
A combination of technological advancements, as well as the introduction of the DIGIC III image processor has allowed the PowerShot G7 digital camera to become the fastest G series camera to date, with a startup time approximately twice as fast as its predecessor at 1.4 seconds (LCD monitor on). Other firsts on a G series model include Optical Image Stabilization and the addition of 13 new special scene modes for a variety of shooting situations. The PowerShot G7 model also adds the “My Colors” function. Users have added flexibility with an increased ISO sensitivity, which ranges from 80-1600, or as high as ISO 3200 in the special scene mode. With the enhanced noise reduction, users can confidently shoot in low light scenes.

Other New Features of the PowerShot G7 Digital Camera:

—USB 2.0 high speed interface
—SDHC Memory Card/SD Memory Card/MultiMedia Card compatibility
—Addition of “My Colors” function that allows users to creatively adjust the colors, contrast, sharpness and saturation of images for a completely custom look while shooting or during playback.
—25 language menu options
—1024 x 768 XGA movie mode (maximum recording time of 31 minutes)
—16:9 widescreen photos to fit today’s widescreen TV’s
—25 shooting modes including 16 special scene modes, and two user customized shooting modes
—Approximately 20% lighter than PowerShot G6 model (including battery and memory card)
—Hot shoe accommodates Canon 220EX, 430EX, 580EX, MR-14EX** and MT-24EX** Speedlite models
—Sound recorder stores up to two hours of voice memo
—“My Category” makes it easy to sort images while shooting or during playback based on user preferences
—Real time histogram while shooting to check exposure levels
—An Image Inspection tool that, when engaged in the REC. Review mode, permits users to make certain that their images are in focus.

About Canon U.S.A., Inc.
Canon U.S.A., Inc. delivers consumer, business-to-business, and industrial imaging solutions. The company is listed as one of Fortune’s Most Admired Companies in America and is rated #35 on the BusinessWeek list of “Top 100 Brands.” Its parent company Canon Inc. (NYSE:CAJ) is a top patent holder of technology, ranking second overall in the U.S. in 2005, with global revenues of $31.8 billion. For more information, visit http://www.usa.canon.com.

All referenced product names, and other marks, are trademarks of their respective owners.

Specifications and availability are subject to change without notice.

*Pricing subject to change at any time. Actual prices are determined by individual dealers and may vary.

**Requires Conversion Lens Adapter LA-DC58H and Macrolite Adapter 58C. (Close-up Lens 58mm 250D is optional but recommended.).

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#1 Vance

I love the looks of the little bugger, but Canon's decision to drop the swivel LCD really kills this one for me.

1:45 pm - Thursday, September 14, 2006

#2 GARY POGODA

And don't forget about their (IMHO 'selfish') decision to drop RAW.

2:58 pm - Thursday, September 14, 2006

#3 phule

"selfish" in the sense that they're giving their share holders the biggest return on their investment.

The margins on these cameras are so thin, Canon is doing everything it can to get people to buy 350D and 400D's. I can't fault them for this.

I do think, however, that they have mis-judged the market. Margins aside, I think there is a market for a G7 with RAW in DSLR users that want something to carry that gives them the control that RAW affords.

For $200 less you can get an A640 with the same sensor and a rotating LCD. Sure it's got Digic II instead of III and no IS, but it's smaller lighter and (IMHO) a better value overall.

5:07 pm - Thursday, September 14, 2006

#4 GARY POGODA

That was a typo. I meant to say "shellfish". :)

But I do agree with your reasoning that they are looking out for their
350D and 400D markets.

7:20 pm - Thursday, September 14, 2006

#5 Phil Salisbury

The lack of a swiveling LCD monitor makes this new G7 unacceptable for me. If you have ever used a camera with a swiveling LCD monitor, you will never want to be without it. I bought one of the last G6s from Norman Camera. I am please with it, but yet, I still like my old black G2 from a few years ago. I also bought an S3 IS and am generally pleased with it.

9:53 pm - Thursday, September 14, 2006

#6 Jason

Sadly, this camera will probably take great pictures but it was built to a price point not a feature set. This is what happens when marketers and accountants design cameras.

10:51 pm - Thursday, September 14, 2006

#7 luc

Such a pity that they combine this gorgeous design with such restricted functionality.
Stupid me, I never purchased a model of the previous two generations because of their hideous looks.

5:59 am - Friday, September 15, 2006

#8 Daniel Major

I have a swiveling LCD monitor on my 5MP and I USE it.
The lack of a swiveling LCD monitor makes this new G7 unacceptable for me.
No G7 upgrade for me.

10:20 am - Friday, September 15, 2006

#9 charles

In spite of the different SDK, they've put out something that can replace the Pro 1s that I'm using in an industrial application. I could use about 100 of these cameras right now.

I just hope they don't break down like the Pro 1s do - and that they focus better.

2:24 pm - Friday, September 15, 2006

#10 sguenther

Everyone like this camera, it is what is missing that is pissing potential buyers off. Swivel Screen OF COURSE, Wider Lens OF COURSE and please can we continue to use the stack of Compact Flash Cards that I use in my Canon SLRs....
Fingers crossed that a Pro2 will be announced.

5:50 pm - Friday, September 15, 2006

#11 Scott Marlowe

This is NOT a G7.

It's missing too many features to lay claim to the title of successor to the G6.

Small lense.
No swivel LCD.
No remote.

Like someone said above, you're better off with a top of the line SD series or $100 or more less.

Ugh, I hope this thing dies before it can get out of the starting gate. I certainly wouldn't buy one.

6:24 am - Saturday, September 16, 2006

#12 XGA_MOVIE_GUY

I have the Powershot S1 IS. I use it for the movie mode. Canon has the cleanest movies compared to all others. When you zoom in, the quality is better than MP4 and Quicktime JPEG, those are fuzzy and blocky in comparisson. I want the XGA movie mode at 30fps. I'm holding out for a PowerShot S4 hoping it's a G7 with swivel lens, 10MP, and XGA 1024x768 at 30fps. I don't think I'll get my 30fps yet! but I'm hoping!!. Great for places you can't bring "Video Cameras" like sporting events. I like that it will do 4GB movies now, the 1GB limit was way too short. I'm hoping someone can do a hack firmware upgrade to get more than 15fps, like at least 18fps or 24fps.

12:34 pm - Saturday, September 16, 2006

#13 nick in japan

Movie_Guy, and another great thing is that when they discover that you are taking video, and take the camera fom you, you won't be out much!

1:24 pm - Saturday, September 16, 2006

#14 Glen gomes

as "EX" canon buyer i have to say...
canon is getting greedy....people bought the canon G6 for a reason ...features like ..

* swivel LCD
* remote control
* RAW
this is by no chance worthy of the "G" series.

why spend the money and buy this amature camera when you can get a feature filled camera like the panasonic DMCFZ50???
Hope sony learns from this ....and olympus...use thE DMCFZ50 ......its got the perfect features ....just the picture quality is not good at the high iso.

12:15 am - Thursday, September 21, 2006

#15 John H.

How do people compare the G7 to the new canon a710? Many of the same features with the old DigiII, etc but $200 less. Its' smaller and lighter with 7mp.

1:56 am - Friday, September 22, 2006

#16 mackenzie h.

you guys are really negative ... SMILE!!! :D:D:D:D

1. the G7 has 10 MP (you wont find that on the 30D or the the Rebel XT or countless other D-SLR's)

2. the G7 is COMPACT!!! it is EXTREMELY rare to find a compact camera with 6x opt. zoom and 10 MP!!!

3. If your cameras are working for you, than good for you guys!!! Don't buy the G7, you save cash, no new things to learn and you've got your trusty ol' whatever. I think Canon has done a fantastic job ... good for them for making a compact SLR that is accessable to a whole lot more people($$$)!!!(BASICALLY an SLR, aside from the fact you can't buy more lenses)
Canon definately has coin and respect.

3:10 am - Saturday, September 23, 2006

#17 Scott Marlowe

mackenzie, fyi, it's not an SLR. For $279.95 you can get the A630 from Amazon, and it's an 8MP camera. It's a LOT of camera for the money.

The A640 is its 10MP bigger brother, and it's only going for $355. It's got a massive fold out screen.

The only thing the G7 has over that camera that I consider even remotely useful are the hot shoe for the flash. the slight increase in ISO speed and Digic III versus II are really not worth the $250 or so it costs over it. Hell, if the A640 had been available for that price a year ago, I probably would not have bought my G6..

I'm not saying the G7 is a crap camera, just that is seems more like an Axxx series camera with a hot shoe.

3:30 am - Saturday, September 23, 2006

#18 kornik

Same here - The lack of a swiveling LCD monitor makes this new G7 unacceptable for me. I used to have G1 and G3 now G5. I am not interested in this handicapped model! If the swiveling monitor was I would buy the camera right away. K

3:24 pm - Saturday, September 23, 2006

#19 GARY POGODA

I must admit, when I had my G3, the flip-out and twist LCD was useful,
but I would have traded it in a heartbeat for a 6x image-stabilized lens,
a more compact body, and a built-in lens cap (especially for the built-in
lens cap :)).

4:59 pm - Saturday, September 23, 2006

#20 Mathvida

I agree guys - this upgrade should have included a (larger) fold out LCD screen, not just suppress it all together. As a Pro I would even like to see this feature on some of the $3000 plus cameras out there, hell, you've paid for it! Guess we'll have to wait even longer now, until they wake up to their market and replace it in the G8. I'm keeping my G5 for now but I would have loved to have all the improvements on the G7 (but no RAW!?). I own other cameras so why should I sacrifice the only one whose single most interesting feature is a fold in, fold out, fold around screen which is even viewable by the people (and kids) you're taking pictures of... not to mention discrete shots and hands over head ! Come to think of it, does anybody know if there is a lobby group one can join to complain to Canon? Something like the Lobby Canon Dumbhead Decisions group?

6:40 pm - Saturday, September 23, 2006

#21 Scott Marlowe

Mathvida, I think the only way to really make out point is to not buy the G7, and to tell our friends looking at it to look at the A630/A640 series, which other than image stabilization and the flash mount, are easily a match for the G7.

Sadly, poor sales of the G7 may lead the Canon execs to believe that the G series has reached the end of its useful life and stop production.

8:38 pm - Saturday, September 23, 2006

#22 GARY POGODA

Don't forget 6x zoom. :)

The advantages of the G7 over the A640 are:
(1) image stabilization
(2) 6x zoom
(3) hot-shoe
(4) DIGIC III

As disappointed as we are for lack of a flip-out LCD and RAW, the G7
is still an excellent camera.

11:15 pm - Saturday, September 23, 2006

#23 viva

:question: can someone please help with the following?
when taking movie with G7 (ie movie record mode is activated) - am i able to:

a) re-focus?

b) zoom-in and out?

c) in 640x480x30fps mode to record movie continuously till card is full (assuming 4GB SD Card) - and not limited to 30-sec or 3-min per clip as in G6 model (i think)?

d) is this true that with 4G card, i can only record 30 mins of movie at 640x480?

e) does the lens retract to flat with the camera body?

2:45 am - Sunday, September 24, 2006

#24 GARY POGODA

Viva, I can answer e) for you. The lens fully retracts into the camera
body, and has a built-in lens cap. The only thing left protruding out of
the body (about 1/4 inch) is the silver ring used for attaching the lens
adapter.

Hope that helps.

3:01 pm - Sunday, September 24, 2006

#25 viva

thanks Gary - would you know where i can download the manual for the camera?

i'm pretty sure i will be fine for the jpeg part of it, i'm not sure about the movie part, seems all digital camera that i tried (including most recently the Panasonic LX2) does not allow me to: refocus and re-zoom (optically) during movie recording.

would you have any comments on this movie part?
/v

10:32 pm - Sunday, September 24, 2006

#26 GARY POGODA

The G7 User's Manual will be available for download from the Canon
website, but not until October.

Most cameras will not let you optically zoom while shooting in movie
mode due to noise, but I've read that the Samsung NV3 has an AGC
to minimize zoom noise in movie mode. Don't know about refocusing.

4:40 am - Monday, September 25, 2006

#27 swifty

Die anybody see the lenscap? Is there one? I fear something really ugly, as you can't see a closed camera front web-wide.

I will happly change the RAW for IS.
I won't miss the remote much.
I like the formfactor

But it seems a standard Canon procedure to cripple its cameras to sell more expensive ones. Hopefully they won't be allowed to do that forever.

5:20 pm - Monday, September 25, 2006

#28 GARY POGODA

Swifty, are you aware that the G7 lens is fully retractable into the body
and does not have an external lens cap, only a built-in lens cover?

6:08 pm - Monday, September 25, 2006

#29 gaston

nobody ever mentioned the flash. i have a g5 and i love it just wish the flash would be a
pop up one.

4:34 am - Tuesday, September 26, 2006

#30 TS

Gary... Are you sure the lens fully retracts? That would be nice, but I have not been able to find any photos or description regarding that.

Is the G7 a pocketable camera?

4:59 pm - Tuesday, September 26, 2006

#31 GARY POGODA

TS, I have not been able to find any photos of the G7's retracted lens,
but I did find a reliable mention of its built-in lens cap.

http://tinyurl.com/p6asa

You can also look at Canon's list of what's in the G7 box to see that a
lens cap is NOT included.

http://tinyurl.com/lwzdr

As for the G7 being a pocketable camera, I would say, "Prit near!" :)

5:16 pm - Tuesday, September 26, 2006

#32 hugh

I have the g2, the G7 is a disappointment.
No raw
no remote
no swivel
Canon is doing a Fuji by leaving out features. The s9500 lwft out remote from the S20 pro. The Fuji s9600 has most of the features Canon has and those left out. The main things missing are dedicated flash and the remote which has been left out

8:35 pm - Tuesday, September 26, 2006

#33 mo

I *can't* believe they left out the remote..

how ugly of them.

no RAW.. what and I'm supposed to pay 500 dollars for that.. whatever.

1:15 pm - Wednesday, September 27, 2006

#34 Scott Marlowe

A couple of points / questions...

1: Is the image stabilization the kind that holds the CCD stable while the camera moves, or the kind that ups the ISO and tries to compensate with software?

2: Why get rid of features that only require software, like RAW? It's not like the incremental cost on each camera goes up with RAW format. And with the size of memory going up while the price goes down, the use of RAW becomes more economical.

3: While Canon's busy consumerizing the G series, why not increase the length of movies you can shoot?

The G6 had flaws, and I would have been happy to see a G7 that basically fixed those flaws but still had all the features of the G6.

3:34 pm - Wednesday, September 27, 2006

#35 John Doherty

I have the G3 and would like to replace it with a more compact and responsive camera. When the G7 was announced I thought “great!” But I too am disappointed that Canon left out the key features of the G series. No doubt the G7 will be a good camera, but it wont be as good as it could have been. No raw, no remote, no swivel LCD, slower lens. Other cameras are closer now in terms of specifications and value for money. Waiting for reviews on the G7 and cameras like the Samsung NV7 and Canon’s own a710 is. The price will also be important and I see the G7 advertised (though not available yet) for £320.00, this may well come down and make it more attractive to buy. Still a lot of money though for a camera that may well only be marginally better that the current crop of point and shoots, and without doubt, no replacement for the previous G series cameras. Even if I did buy the G7 the G3 would have to stay and that says it all really!

5:11 pm - Wednesday, September 27, 2006

#36 GARY POGODA

Scott, the G7's image stabilization is neither of the two types you have
mentioned; rather, it adjusts a lens element to compensate for camera
movement.

John, Canon was hoping that the '6X' image stabilized, fully-retractable
zoom lens of the G7 would compensate for its feature omissions.

5:50 pm - Wednesday, September 27, 2006

#37 Hunter H. Cashdollar

Really sharp looking camera; I may buy one for my next trip.

Hunter Cashdollar

9:27 pm - Wednesday, September 27, 2006

#38 TS

As RAW format has gained in popularity over the years, Canon has quietly removed RAW capability from all their non-DSLR cameras.

Canon is crippling their low-end in hopes you buy their high-end equipment.

Vote with your pocketbook. Don't buy Canon!

2:41 am - Thursday, September 28, 2006

#39 Scott Marlowe

A telling trend...

Normally, with the new model due out, the older model slowly drops in price on the used market. A month ago, the G6 was going for about $500 on amazon used.

Right now, the cheapest one used is $610. Similar thing is happening on Ebay. when the old model, used, is selling for $11 more than the new model is scheduled to sell for, that should tell you something.

Honestly, I could live with the slightly smaller lense, especially since it means not dealing with the overly loose G6 lense cap that requires judicious use of gaffers tape to make tight, and less ergonomic but more pocket friendly grip. Even the switch to the slightly more expensive SD card format could be forgiveable. And in exchange for the 6x IS zoom, all would have been fair.

But getting rid of the swivel LCD, which is one of my favorite features on so many Canon cameras, as well as deleting RAW mode for no reason other than to try and force me into a camera I don't want to buy (it's "free" for canon to include raw mode, so it can only be a marketing ploy to leave it out). That's the last straw. Without the swivel LCD and with RAW mode removed, this camera, to me, is only a small step up from the A5xx and A7xx series camera. And with the A6xx series having a swivel LCD display and almost unlimited video recording, at about half the price, I just can't imagine spending $600 or so on a G7. There are many cameras that outperform it for that much money.

Gary, do you know how well the lens adjusting image stabilization works compared to the CCD stabilization? Any ideas on long term reliability as well? Me personally, I just take three or four shots with a steady hand and do pretty well, but as I get older... hahahaha

4:05 am - Thursday, September 28, 2006

#40 Scott Marlowe

Oh my god! I just realized this thing is missing the dual right finger wheel adjustment style the G6 has, where the zoom and manual adjustment of shutter / aperature / focus is under another wheel just above it.

Is that under the menuing system now or what? Looks kinda klunky the more I look at it. Can't be sure without using it, but the G6's right index finger secondary wheel is sheer genius.

4:12 am - Thursday, September 28, 2006

#41 Brani Boy

My g6 was stollen from my house. I have insurance but sadly I cant even replace it now. The first thing that I noticed was the missing swivel and yeah the index finger wheel was hot. Its a real shame but I think Ill be looking else where

9:00 am - Thursday, September 28, 2006

#42 GARY POGODA

Scott, both forms of IS work very well. The CCD IS is an advantage
with DSLRs because of the costs savings compared to having to use
IS lenses. Lens IS is generally said to have slightly better stabilizing
capability than CCD.

Brani, if you're looking for a high-zoom IS compact with full-manual
controls and excellent image quality (assuming the G7 actually does
have excellent image quality), your choices are VERY limited.

9:48 am - Thursday, September 28, 2006

#43 Mark Goldstein

We now have some product photos live from Photokina 2006...

3:40 pm - Saturday, September 30, 2006

#44 John Paulson

I agree with many of you here--the lack of a swivel screen will prevent me from buying this camera.

5:42 pm - Saturday, September 30, 2006

#45 Rick Trelles

Half of my interest in using digital cameras
is being able to shoot from any angle *thanks
to a swiveling screen*. I will never buy a camera withour it.

By the way, I would never buy a camera
to change lenses *and expose the sensor* neither!

Currently I own an A610 and an S3 IS and I like them.

11:03 pm - Saturday, September 30, 2006

#46 Vlad Didenko

I was waiting to get a compact backup to my 20D, however, No RAW - No Go.. :( Sucks, but will do with a non-Canon compact with raw

4:57 am - Sunday, October 1, 2006

#47 GARY POGODA

Thanks, Mark (#43). That answers the question about a fully-retracting lens.

5:14 am - Sunday, October 1, 2006

#48 kirk

If only!

The G7 had potential, but key features like RAW were inexplicably left off. Bad move Canon. You won't be getting any of my money.

4:14 am - Monday, October 2, 2006

#49 Stephen

I like the looks of the new G7. I am going to replace my SD500 with this camera. I like the extras that are available for it. 10MB camera that will take an external flash, that you can almost put in your pocket! Looks hot to me! (-8

11:48 am - Tuesday, October 3, 2006

#50 Flemming Gøttsche

I love my old G1 but would consider buying a higher resolution. However how do I use my camera? I often use a powerful flash (speedlite 580EX and most of my pictures are shot from 'impossible' angles overhead or from half a meter outside a boat; hence the rotating LCD is a must. An even more powerful zoom is available in the powershot S series that has kept the rotating LCD, but they lack the hot shoe. It seems I can no longer (later than G6 that is) combine the creative angles and the flash; pity.

8:43 pm - Tuesday, October 3, 2006

#51 David Blinco

I went straight to the top Re: RAW issue. See response below:
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Dear Mr. Blinco:

On behalf of Mr. Hashimoto, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts about the PowerShot G7 digital camera. Here are the answers to your questions:

>> Is there any possibility that this feature [RAW image capture] will being added in the future via a firmware update, etc.? Or is it[s absence] due to some technical limitation?<<

There are no plans to add RAW image capture to the PowerShot G7 camera. According to our R&D Center, the image data characteristics of the CCD sensor used in the PowerShot G7 are quite different than those of the CMOS sensors used in our EOS digital SLRs. This is partially due to differences in pixel pitch (much smaller for PowerShot versus EOS), but it is also due to various other technical limitations of small-format CCD sensors. The net result is that even if the G7 offered RAW image capture or uncompressed TIFF recording, there would be no discernible improvement in image quality compared to that which the camera already achieves in its Superfine JPEG mode.

Additionally, the PowerShot G7 offers a wealth of image control features for photographers who wish to fine-tune crucial aspects of photographic expression, including adjustable resolution and compression settings, a wide range of shutter speed and aperture settings, custom and preset white balance settings, selectable color space, adjustable sharpness, contrast and saturation settings, etc. Of course, the G7 also offers many other advanced features including optical image stabilization, a full range of exposure modes, compatibility with EOS system Speedlites, a live histogram, optional superimposed grid lines, and much more.

Canon is confident that the PowerShot G7's combination of high-quality Canon optics and DIGIC III image processing together with the highest resolution in its class produces exceptional image quality when properly used. We believe that independent product testing will support this contention when the G7 starts shipping to dealers later this month. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Best Regards,

Chuck Westfall
Director/Media & Customer Relationship
Camera Marketing Group/Canon U.S.A., Inc.
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3:11 pm - Wednesday, October 4, 2006

#52 kirk

Well Dave, what do you think of the response from Mr. Westfall?

3:36 pm - Wednesday, October 4, 2006

#53 GARY POGODA

I'm not Dave :); however, even if you buy the argument that there
would be no 'advantage' to RAW over JPEG in terms of image quality,
that does not take away from RAW's post-processing flexibility and it
does not answer the question as to why RAW was not included in the
G7 when all previous G models had it.

4:12 pm - Wednesday, October 4, 2006

#54 kirk

Gary, you are absolutely right. And, with JPEG you are able to take full advantage of having a nice lens. For quality, JPEG sucks!

RAW used to be available with the Powershot Pro 1, S70, and G6. So Canon already had the know-how and capability using small CCD sensors.

I already have a Canon DSLR. I want a small, carry-everywhere camera that has RAW. Doesn't Canon get it?

7:31 pm - Wednesday, October 4, 2006

#55 kirk

Should have read... with JPEG you are NOT able to take full advantage of having a nice lens.

7:34 pm - Wednesday, October 4, 2006

#56 nick in japan

#53, More proof we need a "Gary Pogoda Appreciation Day" . Maybe, even at the national level!
"The spin stops here" has never had so much meaning!

10:51 pm - Wednesday, October 4, 2006

#57 Phil Cannon

A jpeg without raw?

It is like a print with no negative! You really don't have an image to work with.

5:09 am - Sunday, October 8, 2006

#58 Adrian

hear hear! they can keep it!

5:32 pm - Tuesday, October 10, 2006

#59 Tom

Guys, I’m an amateur who wants the best point and shoot (most total features) pocket camera. Have reviewed the entire market, with that in mind, and nothing compares with the G7. It’s the latest greatest. I’ve only rarely done an overhead shoot and find the steadiness is much better using an optical view finder (I’m that old guy) which thankfully this camera has, I only ever use the LCD for review. I think I’m part of the silent majority on that, I have my order in and can’t wait to get it, wish me luck, I’ll let you know if I’m disappointed. Thanks for your forum it’s great to hear all the viewpoints; I really admire your knowledge. Tom

8:32 am - Friday, October 13, 2006

#60 nick in japan

Good luck Tom! I think you will be real happy with the G7! I like alot of the features, as do you.
If you are an old Canon user, you may have some nice flashes that are not the EX series, they may work in a manual mode setting. Canon had made some nice, and, expensive flashes that are not dedicated to the newer Canons, thus , we are suffering there, but, they will work with restrictions, at least with my DSLRs, maybe this beauty too.

9:16 am - Friday, October 13, 2006

#61 christopher

I agree with all of the discussions above. It really is missing the key features which make it a G camera. Raw and flipouts are the defining qualities of the G series. The price point for the feature set doesn't make sense. It's also missing that 2nd index wheel (very convenient, G7 maybe doing it thru the menu button) and the F2 fast lens. The F2 isn't just for lower shutter speeds but makes beautiful portraitures with nicely blurred backgrounds. The image stabilization at F2.8 allows for lower shutter speeds but doesn't have the same extent of background blur as F2. I do more portraitures of people (travel and vacation pics) than I do of nature so the F2 to F3 is more useful to me than the F2.8 to F4.8 on the G7. But I haven't compared so the visible difference may not be that much, I don't know. But I know I can take some real nice portraits by setting to max aperture on my G5 and it looks good with background blur. Anyone have any thoughts on this? For those of you doing sports or nature photography the IS and the 6x zoom will be more useful to you. The high ISO capability can really come in handy too on the G7. I always wished my G5 could go to 1600 ISO. When I shoot in Raw on my G5 at ISO 400 it cleans up nicely in Rawshooters or Photoshop luminence noise reduction. So having ISO 1600 with Raw would be awesome. Just a side note, I seem to find noise reduction of Raw files seem to clean up better than using Photoshop noise reduction on Jpg. Is this true or is my mind playing tricks on me? Maybe there's no difference. Anyone?

3:56 pm - Saturday, October 14, 2006

#62 GARY POGODA

Good point, Christopher, about the G5's 'narrower' depth of field. One
way to see just how much of a difference this makes would be to take
two identical shots with your G5, one at F2.0 and one at F2.8.

As for RAW cleaning up better than JPEG, this makes sense due to the
12-bit data of RAW versus the 8-bit data of JPEG.

5:31 pm - Saturday, October 14, 2006

#63 christopher

Good idea Gary. I should test it out.

When I shoot portraitures I like to set to aperture priorty and set to max aperture at telescopic end in raw mode. This does even better portraits than the scene mode portraiture dial which doesn't seem to squeeze every drop out of the aperture. I like to use every drop of aperture to max the background blur to get good pop effect. And because I shoot travel pics, a lot of times pics are in low light like sunsets or indoors like in opera houses or museums and often I need to tweek it just a little bit to bring out the face or the background and it does a great job in raw mode (exposure and shadow adjustment). And when you shoot in high ISO the raw mode is where it can really shine. That being said for most people who shoot in bright light outdoors, you probably don't need to shoot in raw so won't miss it too much in the G7. And the 10mp with 6xIS may more than compensate so I guess it really depends on what you're using it for.

I won't be upgrading since I don't need the 6x IS and 10mp and have never blown my pics bigger than a 5x7. (For me it's way too expensive to print pics bigger than 5x7) So I guess whether to upgrade or not depends on how you use your camera and what you use it for. For those of you doing action and nature photography and even wedding pics that extra pixel power and 6xIS may be worth it.

7:18 pm - Saturday, October 14, 2006

#64 GARY POGODA

It sounds to me like you should be upgrading to the G6.

I would personally upgrade to the G7 just for the built-in lens cover. :)

8:24 pm - Saturday, October 14, 2006

#65 christopher

Yeah I agree, that lens cover is a pain. I can never trust throwing the camera in my pack for fear the lens cover will fall off and something could scratch the lens. But I do like the big F2 lens. I guess the tradeoff with the lens cap was they had to use smaller lens elements hence the F2.8

Everythings always a tradeoff. I wish they would put all the best features and build a nonslr super camera.

10:02 pm - Saturday, October 14, 2006

#66 GARY POGODA

Speaking of tradeoffs, when doing portraits I would be willing to bet
that the DOF of the G7 at wide open F2.8 and full 210mm zoom is at
least as narrow as your G5 at wide open F2.0 and full 140mm zoom,
for the exact same crop (i.e., standing back further with the G7).

4:14 am - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#67 christopher

It could be. But even on the G5 at full tele I'm already pretty far back and often wait for all the pedestrians to clear the path before snapping the shot. Any further back, people might not even see that I'm taking a pic. I took a look at some of the pics at different apertures to see the depth of blur and it is noticeable though the difference is not nearly as great as I thought btwn F3 and F4 at G5's full tele 140mm. Because of that sensor multiplication factor I need every drop of aperture and still will in no way come close to a good SLR with a good F1.4 or even F2.0 prime lens. Always a tradeoff. AS for comparing the G5 at 140mm F3 (you can't get F2 fully tele extended) to G7 at 210mm F4.8 (you can't get F2.8 fully tele extended) I really can't tell which would get stronger background blur. The difference btwn F2 and F2.8 may not be much but would be more pronounced btwn F3 and F4.8 but then again that jump from 140mm to 210mm may more than compensate. I really don't know. But I've seen the pics of smaller digicams at 3x tele (about 120mm) shot at near F5 and nearly everything is tack sharp (like a huge bridge or building as the backdrop hundreds of meters behind). I really don't know. Has anyone ever tested this? I wish my G5 could do F2 at max tele extended, but there really isn't any other fixed lens camera that comes close this fast lens so I don't complain since I don't want to lug an SLR. (Though SLRs are much smaller these days and with a good F1.4 prime lens my portraits would be truly stunning!)

That's a good thought Gary. Has anyone tested this or have some experience about this?

6:16 am - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#68 christopher

I would also bet a G7 at F2.8 210mm would have more background blur than a G5 at F2.0 140mmm but since this isn't possible I'm not so sure about a G7 at F4.8 210mm vs a G5 at F3.0 140mm. The problem with many of these ps cameras is they start to get diffraction limited at F5.0 (I mean they only go up to F8.) I first discovered this phenomenon when dp review was reviewing the Sony V3 and similarly in dcresource.

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/dsc_v3-review/index.shtml

I looked at the picture quality degradation due to diffraction by looking at pics of the same shot ranging from F2 to F8 and it is noticeable. Another reason I always like max aperture. But then again I'm starting to get picky. For most users who only print 4x6 I doubt you can see any difference even at F8. lol.

6:50 am - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#69 GARY POGODA

You're right, the G7 would be at F4.8 for full zoom versus F3.0 for the
G5, so I would likely lose the bet. My mind must have been in a 'circle
of confusion' when I made it. :)

There do not seem to be many 'non-SLR' options for a fast lens and a
1/1.8" (or larger) image sensor. The Sony F828 bridge camera comes
to mind, but nothing around the size of the G5, other than the G6.

7:54 am - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#70 christopher

Gary, thank you for having this excellent discussion with me about the merits of the G7.

I was also reading the discussions at dpreview and they were talking about the G7 samples being blurred on the girl's hair.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=20142819

I looked at the samples...
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/psg7/sample/sam-1-e.html

... and must honestly say, The G7 pics even without raw look awesome!!! I really don't know what the reviewers are talking about complaining about noise. That 10mp sensor seems to really deliver. Detailed and contrasty and the colours look nicely saturated. And it will be 41% horizontally larger than my current G5! That's almost an entire screen on my 19" flat panel!

For people doing big blowups it may be well worth it!... I'm tempted.

9:13 am - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#71 GARY POGODA

You can go crazy trying to follow that thread. From what I can gather,
the G7 suffers a bit in image quality compared to the G6, the G7 CCD
is not a good as the G6's CCD, so RAW processing would not help that
much in terms of IQ, the bokeh of the G7 will still be pretty good, and
except for the G7's lack of the G6's flip-out and twist LCD, it has better
ergonomics due to its more compact size and fully retracting lens. Not
too much said about the G7's '6x' zoom and IS advantages. A lot said
about the G7's heavier-handed noise reduction compared to the G6.

I looked at the portrait sample, and it did look a bit like the girl had too
much hair gel in some sections of her hair. :)

12:27 pm - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#72 christopher

Gary... Wow, I must say you people are truly connoisseurs of digital imaging. At 100% view the girl looks awesome to me and never noticed the blur on the hair. I'm not sure if other 10mp, including DSLRs, would be able to produce better detail on the hair. I mean the difference we're talking about here are but microscopically fractional? right? I wouldn't have noticed blur on the hair if somebody didn't point it out. I also noticed that in jpg, there doesn't seem to be much noise at all and no noticeable sharpening halos. This is good so maybe RAW isn't so necessary.

As for the ergonomics, the smaller fuller retracting lens is nice. But it just looks a little awkward to hold without a more pronounced grip. Also I really have grown fond of that 2nd control wheel right next to the shutter trigger button for quick adjustments to aperture, speed, and focus. The G series engineers put a lot of thought into this design and it feels so natural and convenient. I don't know but assume for the G7, adjustments to aperture and speed and focus will now be done through that menu button. It's a little awkward but I suppose one could get used to it. I don't find that manual ISO button to be all that useful.

To be honest reading through so many comments on the G7 (I was seriously and am still seriously considering upgrading my G5) I don't believe it was some ingenious marketing ploy to force people to buy DSLRs. Rather I think it was a cost consideration to get rid of the swivelling display, the big lens, and fewer parts mean less cost and better margins. I'm not sure about the RAW though and whether it is simply a firmware issue and that there is no cost to have the RAW option. I think Canon just wants to simplify and standardize to avoid so much confusion amongst their many products. They've got so many different models that its starting to cannabolize each others markets and confuses the heck out of people. It sure confuses me.

4:01 pm - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#73 Karl

Does anyone know when is this camera is going to be in Market in large stores? It's mid October and I'm waiting on it.

4:10 pm - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#74 christopher

I was told it should be widely available in early November.

5:37 pm - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#75 Tom

You know stick shift cars went out of style when automatic transmissions became so good. I think we are turning the corner on digital cameras. Bless you purists you will assure the quality always improves, hold you ground. Personally I don’t want to work so hard. Tom

7:11 pm - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#76 christopher

You're quite right Tom. I used to be one of those stick shift purists and quite frankly ever since I bought my friend's used car with auto, I don't want to go back to stick shift... not even on my next new car purchase. You can't go back... or at least you don't want to.

10:55 pm - Sunday, October 15, 2006

#77 kohshi

to me, swivel screen doesn't add any overall value to the camera... i mean, would you want a 1.5 inch swivel display (usually the ones who like taking pics of themselves only use) or 2.5 inch fixed screen for better display? And who has time to edit hundreds of RAW images after a trip back from a vacation when JPG's quality is comparable, if not better in G7. Unless you're taking pics for a magazine layout, in which case this camera is not made for that purpose anyways, you really don't need RAW images. You just need to learn how put it on the right setting before you start taking pics. Its not like you can't edit jpegs as well....

I personally love the new classic design, kinda like a throwback NBA jerseys, and the larger display area. And the slim design is great... try taking G6 to bars and resturants... you look like a freaking tourist with that thing. Now you have G6 quality, if not better, in a slimmer design.

10:48 pm - Monday, October 16, 2006

#78 nick in japan

IMHO, the swivel screen is the greatest tool designed for any photographer that takes images other than stand-up, tourist snapshots!
The small screens are not as easy to use as larger ones, but still are effective screens for composition and histogram confirmation, focus and that live exposure!
The LX, or any small camera mounted in the hot-shoe can be used too, by viewing the swivel screen of the F-828, or FZ-30, I can approximate the image of the LX and snap them both, without having to get into the prone position.
Overhead, around corners, low and tricky positions all benefit from a swivel screen... A wonderful tool for any real photographer!
Maybe the second greatest invention !

11:05 pm - Monday, October 16, 2006

#79 kirk

Hey Kohshi... Ya, I can live without the swivel screen, but not without RAW. JPEG sucks big time!

Canon has crippled this camera, and that's the point Nick and others are making. If there is an important feature that you need, Canon has probably removed it.

So, what you are left with is an ordinary, run-of-the-mill camera, that's expensive. Probably good enough for most people, like you, who don't know the difference between JPEG and RAW.

11:25 pm - Monday, October 16, 2006

#80 Kornik

Koshi wrote: "swivel screen doesn't add any overall value to the camera... who has time to edit hundreds of RAW images ... put it on the right setting before you start taking pics... love the new classic design ... slim design is great... try taking G6 to bars and restaurants... you look like a freaking tourist with that thing..."

Hey Koshi, maybe any camera will do if it looks... good & slim. I am sure they can make disposable ones look great too. Maybe even with a laptop-size screen in them :-) ... I think your needs are opposite to most of the peoples' that are discussing the G7 here.

I have owned the "G" series cameras from the very beginning which is more than 5 years now I think. I have taken more than 30,000 pictures. I have used the viewfinder only on ONE occasion when I had to take pictures but my battery was running flat. When I took up the G1 I sold my SLRs. There so much absolutely practical aspect to using the swivel screen that I CAN NOT imagine going back to viewfinder-like handling where you camera needs to be in front of your face! (sorry the SLR folks) As an aside, I am buying a Sony video camera - for me… Canon sucks at this moment.

1:57 am - Tuesday, October 17, 2006

#81 CRAIGr

I think the lack of swivel is a disapointment, I think from looking at the pictures that - the screen is a gone to keep the camera thin. Look at the over dimensions-much more compact then the A - line that have the swivel.

As for the Raw- again to keep the camera small. I recall when apple came out with the 5th gen Ipod, we lost the firewire- Again to keep it thin.

I think looking at the big picture- i will buy this camera- however - ill be getting at Costco just in case its not all i hope it be....

5:07 pm - Tuesday, October 17, 2006

#82 GARY POGODA

A flip-out and twist LCD would likely have added some extra thickness
to the camera as well as some expense. But not RAW, that was purely
a marketing decision.

5:34 pm - Tuesday, October 17, 2006

#83 carl hamilton

dear CANON : i must say that you have turned the Canon G-Series from a really serious WORKING PROSUMER CAMERA to that of a FANCY SOCIALITEs TOY when you have introduced the Canon G7 . BIIIG MISTAKE ! CANON should have focused this effort towards IXUS line of cameras and certainly not to the G7 . as a present G6 operator , i was eagerly looking forward to something along the lines of SONYs DSC R1 which now is in the qualified position of being rightfully called the leading PROSUMER CAMERA in the market by virtue of its SERIOUS LOOKS , FEEL , and of course , PERFORMANCE . please understand that the G cameras DO NOT BELONG TO THE CATEGORY of SAMSUNGs NV series nor a RICOH GR glamour point and shooters which you are obviously trying to emulate , rather POORLY . flush this misguided notion down the toilet and come back strongly in the future with the deleted FULLY-ARTICULATED LCD SCREEN W/SUPERIMPOSED GRID PATTERN , SELECTOR DIAL ADJACENT THE SHUTTER BUTTON , RAW ,repeat , RAW IMAGE CAPTURE , AN ANATOMICALLY-CONTOURED GRIP HANDLE WITH ALL THE BASIC CAMERA CONTROL BUTTONS ALONGSIDE ITS VICINITY FOR INSTANTANEOUS SETTING ADJUSTMENTS BY THE SHOOTING HAND , THE EVER- IMPORTANT REMOTE SHUTTER RELEASE CONTROLLER , 35MM SIZED MANUALLY - ZOOMABLE/FOCUSABLE LENS WITH PROVISIONS FOR ATTACHING BOTH WIDE AND TELE LENS EXTENDERS PLUS FILTERS , 35MM FULL-FRAME CMOS IMAGING SENSORS , A MUCH - FASTER SUSTAINED BURST SPEED RATES , A 100% VIEWABLE OPTICAL VIEWFINDER WITH DIOPTRIC ADJUSTMENTS , AND LASTLY BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY , A HIGHLY - RUGGEDIZED AND ENVIRONMENTALLY -INSULATED CAMERA BODY INTERFACED WITH A SUPERB CANON 24-200MM F2.8 ASPHERICAL FLUORITE LENS .we prosumers would like to take our G-series cameras on every conceivable outdoor/indoor activity known to man . a camera that can take on the challenges presented by arctic cold , desert heat , jungle humidity ,urban adventures , and oh yes , even at COCKTAIL PARTIES! CANON , THE BALL IS NOW IN YOUR COURT .

8:49 pm - Tuesday, October 17, 2006

#84 GARY POGODA

I was with you right up until the point of a full-frame CMOS sensor w/
24-200mm manual zoom/focus lens. That is asking a bit too much for
a compact.

1:29 am - Wednesday, October 18, 2006

#85 christopher

Carl you said it. You've clearly summarized everything that's missing in the G7 that was in the G6... right up until the 35mm full frame sensor, I couldn't really ask for anything more. But from there on... your demands are a little greedy.

9:24 am - Wednesday, October 18, 2006

#86 Mark Goldstein

(Posted on behalf of LITO TIOZON)

dear Sir , am delighted to learn that my soured sentiments over the introduction of the G7 is echoed and shared by quite a number of thinking photographers such as yourself , thank you ! with regard to the massive design overhaul proposed by this author to the Canon Corporation , i fully realize that they are of a truly radical nature . this feeling arose in me as i keenly analyze the USUAL LIMITATIONS IMPOSED UPON PROSUMER CAMERA USERS by almost every camera manufacturer . there seems to be a grossly mistaken notion that PHOTOGRAPHERS WHO DO NOT WISH TO UTILIZE DSLRs BUT INSTEAD EMPLOY PROSUMER CAMERAS HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE AFFORDED THE HIGHLY SPECIALIZED FUNCTIONS / FEATURES THAT ARE ONLY IN THE EXCLUSIVE REALM OF PROFESSIONAL - GRADE PHOTOGRAPHIC EQUIPMENT . IS DEMOCRACY DEAD IN THIS PARTICULAR ARTISTIC FIELD ? please allow me to cite the inherent disadvantages of the much -vaunted DSLR . there's always the INCESSANT INTRUSION OF DUST/MOISTURE INTO THE CAMERA SENSOR CHAMBER EVERYTIME A LENS IS REMOVED , A FACTOR GREATLY AFFECTING THE RESULTANT IMAGE QUALITY . A VULGARLY UNWELCOME NOISE WHENEVER THE SHUTTER BUTTON IS ACTIVATED , A BIG NO-NO WHEN COVERING SENSITIVE SURVEILLANCE PHOTOGRAPHY , CHURCH WEDDING CEREMONIES , FORMAL DINING ENGAGEMENTS , WILDLIFE PHOTOGRAPHY , MAJOR SPORTING EVENTS AND MUSICAL PERFORMANCES WHERE SILENCE IS AT A PREMIUM . THEN THERE IS ALWAYS THAT JARRING VIBRATION EVERYTIME THE MIRROR SWINGS INTO ACTION , ANOTHER ASPECT OF IMAGE SHARPNESS LOSS . FINALLY , WE COME TOWARDS THE SUBJECT OF ENDURING THE UNWANTED BURDEN OF HAVING TO CARRY ALONG A VARIETY OF LENSES TO BE ABLE TO BROADLY COVER THE ENTIRE PHOTOGRAPHIC RANGE , A PROPOSITION WHICH IS ONLY PRACTICAL WHEN A PERSON IS NOT BRINGING ALONG OTHER FORMS OF GEAR . these real world concerns are what steered me away from the dslr and instead welcomed the prosumer camera as a VERY PRACTICAL PHOTOGRAPHIC EQUIPMENT OF CHOICE . this is also the driving force behind my desire for the camera manufacturers TO ELEVATE THE STATUS AND CAPABILITY OF THE PROSUMER CAMERA TO A LEVEL COMPARABLE TO THAT OF A PRO-SPEC DSLR WITHOUT THE TROUBLESOME CHARACTERISTICS AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY . the prosumer camera has a lot of promises in store for it and the only way for its users to progress is UPWARDS .
WE ONLY COME ROUND ONCE IN THIS LIFE . LET US CHOOSE EXCELLENCE OVER MEDIOCRITY .

9:01 am - Thursday, October 19, 2006

#87 Mark Goldstein

(Posted on behalf of LITO TIOZON)

dear Sir , did I read you right there ? no 35mm FULL-FRAME CMOS SENSORS on your camera spec sheet ? why , that is like saying no to a Porsche 911 OIL/AIR-COOLED TURBO right up your alley ! there is no substitute for excellence , my friend .

9:02 am - Thursday, October 19, 2006

#88 GARY POGODA

It's like saying no to a Porsche 911 Turbo for a Vespa motor scooter. :)

9:49 am - Thursday, October 19, 2006

#89 nick in japan

Vespas probably perform alot better than a 911 Turbo, reliable too, getting you from point A to B with little expense..
Excellent choice!
You guys and your bling, akin to the moronic Japanese and their Lambos, and a national speed limit of 37mph!
The bigger the bling, the smaller the... naw!

10:07 am - Thursday, October 19, 2006

#90 GARY POGODA

Bottom line, as much as we would like a compact with a full-frame, it's
just not feasible. No more than it is to mount a Porsche 3500 CC Turbo
engine on a Vespa motor scooter designed for a 200 CC engine.

10:37 am - Thursday, October 19, 2006

#91 nick in japan

Perfect!

11:07 am - Thursday, October 19, 2006

#92 Tom

Mark, It does my heart good to hear a Guy like you, who obviously knows his stuff, be an advocate of moving photography ahead for the common man. From what I read Canon's biggest sin was to introduce it as an addition to the G series. Really Guys if they brought it out as a stand alone High End point and shoot perhaps there would not be all the clamor. My mouth is still watering to get a hold of one. Again I don't want to work that hard. I've learned alot reading this forum. Thanks, Tom

11:48 am - Thursday, October 19, 2006

#93 CARL HAMILTON

quoting Nick of Japan :" Vespa scooters perform a lot better than Porsche 911 turbos " . are you sure you are on this planet? just what time were you born yesterday ? you are probably working as a waitress in Japan as your mind and your wallet could only buy you cheap thrills . your masculinity must also conform to that of a Vespa scooter - PUNY

6:26 am - Friday, October 20, 2006

#94 nick in japan

Your diaper is showing Carl!

6:33 am - Friday, October 20, 2006

#95 CARL HAMILTON

quoting Gary Pogoda : " it is not feasible to equip 35mm full - frame CMOS sensors on prosumer cameras ". where were you when Sony announced it had mounted an APS C- sized CMOS image sensor on its DSC R1 prosumer camera ? you must be scooting around with your Vespa back in the 50s . obviously your thinking is not up to speed with reality. look yourself in the mirror and say , " I DON'T WANT A PORSCHE 911 TURBO NOR A FULL FRAME SENSOR ON MY PROSUMER CAMERA ." you will notice how steadily the length of your nose grows .

6:48 am - Friday, October 20, 2006

#96 nick in japan

Carl, we have a real nice blog here, full of constructive info, experiances with cameras and related stuff, and a bit of humor now-and-then. What we don't need is a Mel Gibson type that demeans and disrespects people they dont know.
If you have problems with social skills, I suggest you seek help, you are, obviously, very intellegent, but like another that had, and overcame his/her problem, your distain with folks that waitress for a living, don't make alot of money, or don't especially like Volkswagens, is, unbecoming, to say the least.

7:12 am - Friday, October 20, 2006

#97 Mark Goldstein

(Posted on behalf of Carl Hamilton)

howdydoody Tom ! glad to know where you priorities lie - towards the way to Commonsenselandia . i am certain that you would soon arrive in that place in no time at all because you are willing to open up and broaden your horizon and liberate your mind from the crippling shackles of conventional practice . ONE CANNOT HOPE TO FLY IF HE REFUSES TO LEAVE THE GROUND . sounds like you've got the hots for a really hotrod point and shoot dcam ! trod the path leading to the SONY DSCR1 , you will get to have all the G7s goodies plus a whole lot more , in the form of a class- leading CARL ZEISS 'T' 24-120 f2.8 manually-focusable/zoomable lens . mouth-watering indeed.... CARL HAMILTON

9:36 am - Friday, October 20, 2006

#98 GARY POGODA

Carl (#95), the R1 is not a compact, and the APS-C is not a full-frame.
So I repeat ...

Bottom line, as much as we would like a compact with a full-frame, it's
just not feasible.

9:39 am - Friday, October 20, 2006

#99 Tom

Gary, Thank you for saying so. Nobody disputes the R1 is a great camera, but it's also a tank. Just got word my G7 shipped yesterday, and yes Carl my mouth is still watering, hopefully the eating compares with the desire. Tom

2:07 pm - Friday, October 20, 2006

#100 Karl

Circuit City has them for online sale however, I prefer to buy products in person. I hope some retail store gets them soon. I'm in NYC :(

3:06 pm - Friday, October 20, 2006