Canon G7

September 30, 2006 | Mark Goldstein | Digital Compact Cameras | 227 Comments |

Canon PowerShot G7The new Canon G7 features a 10 megapixel, 1/1.8 inch sensor, DIGIC III image processor, Face Detection, 35-210mm lens and optical image stabilization system. The Canon G7 will be available in October 2006 for $599.99 / £449.00 / €649.99.

Canon USA Press Release

Canon Combines Top-Tier Tech and Classic Camera Design into Line Leading 10-Megapixel Canon PowerShot G7 Digital Camera

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y.—Sept. 14, 2006—The Canon PowerShot G7 digital camera, the new flagship of Canon’s ever popular fleet of PowerShot digital cameras will be sailing into stores beginning in October, equipped with a boatload of Canon’s newest technological achievements and user-friendly features and carrying an estimated selling price of $599.99.* Designed to delight even the most die-hard photo enthusiast, the 10-megapixel Canon G7 digital camera continues the tradition of imaging excellence, innovation and ease of use that began when the PowerShot G1 was introduced a mere six years ago.

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Compact and comfortable to hold, handle and use, the PowerShot G7 digital camera is an aesthetic treat as well, harking back to the look and feel of classic Canon cameras. From its retro “wet black matte finish,” leather-toned grip and the detailed knurling and analog-style “click-click” of the camera’s top side ISO Speed Dial and Shooting Mode Dial, to the stylish metallic accents of the body’s aluminum-finish parts and metallic-finish bayonet ring, this PowerShot G7 conveys a sense of “camera-ness” rarely encountered in the world of digital photography. Photo panache and feel appeal not withstanding, the PowerShot G7 remains true to the G-Class tradition by offering an array of the industry’s advanced photographic features.

“In the PowerShot G7 we have created the ultimate prosumer compact digital camera for the discerning hobbyist, the photo enthusiast and for those who require uncompromising photo quality for business and industrial applications,” states Yukiaki Hashimoto, senior vice president and general manager of the consumer imaging group at Canon U.S.A., Inc. “Faster, more responsive, more efficient and easier to use, thanks to Canon’s proprietary new DIGIC III image processor and a newly enhanced and intuitive user interface, the PowerShot G7 digital camera also offers users a greater level of creative control and flexible shooting options than ever before.”

The Eyes Have It
The “brain” of the new camera is DIGIC III, the newest iteration of Canon’s ultra-efficient (and proprietary) image processor. Making its debut on the PowerShot G7 digital camera (along with Canon’s three newest Digital ELPH models) the DIGIC III chip accounts for the camera’s higher performance levels including faster start up, autofocus and shutter response times, and of course, improved image quality and more efficient power consumption; resulting in extended battery life under typical shooting conditions.

What’s more, thanks to the DIGIC III chip’s more aggressive noise reduction, the PowerShot G7 digital camera is able to shoot at ISO equivalent speed ratings from 80 to as high as 1600. This increased sensitivity at the top-end allows users to select faster shutter speeds, significantly reducing camera shake and subject blur during hand held low-light photography.

With Canon’s new Face Detection AF/AE technology (working in concert with Canon’s 9-point Autofocus system), the camera can detect, lock on and track up to nine human faces in a scene simply by pressing the shutter button halfway. The face detection algorithm automatically prioritizes and selects the optimum subject and not simply the closest face (based on Canon’s Intelligent Scene Analysis/iSAPS technology). It will then optimize the focus and exposure to ensure the best possible results for even easier picture taking moments.

Reflections in an Image Stabilized Glass Eye
True to Canon’s tradition of optical excellence, the PowerShot G7 digital camera is equipped with a fast and sharp f/2.8-4.8 6X optical zoom lens (35-210mm, 35mm equivalent). Canon’s specialized SR coating augments the all glass lens, the first time this lens coating technology has been applied in a compact digital camera. In combination with the lens’ aspherical elements, the SR coating helps reduce flare and ghosting, delivering a cleaner image to the camera’s CCD sensor in the process. The precision lens also features an extreme macro setting that focuses down to one centimeter.

The PowerShot G7 digital camera also features a Lens-Shift type optical image stabilization system that can help defeat the effects of camera shake in low light situations, or while shooting handheld. This optical image stabilization system is based on advancements made in the development of Canon’s EF lenses and video lenses. Unlike electronic or “digital image stabilization systems” that typically degrade image quality, the PowerShot G7 digital camera’s lens shift-type preserves maximum optical performance while providing up to three stops of shake correction in shutter speed equivalent.

The PowerShot G7 digital camera’s new 1.4x/2.3x, onboard, digital tele-converter achieves the digital equivalent of having an actual teleconverter lens attached to the camera. The camera also offers a new Safety Zoom that enables non-stop digital zoom operation at reduced resolution settings up to the maximum magnification possible before the image begins to degrade. Optional optical wide-angle (WC-DC58B), telephoto (TC-DC58C) and close-up (58mm 250D) supplementary lenses are also available for the PowerShot G7 digital camera.**

Admiring the View
The PowerShot G7 digital camera is equipped with a newly enhanced, 2.5- inch color LCD screen with approximately 207,000 pixels, a wide viewing angle and 15 brightness settings making it easier to read the display menus and easier to preview and review subjects and scenes. Adding to the ease of composing a picture in the proper print proportion, the PowerShot G7 is appointed with optional grid lines and a 3:2 aspect ratio print display overlay. Simply put, this convenient composition guide overlays horizontal gray bars at the top and bottom of the LCD screen so that photographers can compose and shoot their images in the proportion best suited to the print size they wish to make (typically 4"x 6”).

Making Special Scenes
When it comes to special scenes, the PowerShot G7 camera makes a quantum leap over its predecessor with the addition of 13 new modes for a variety of scenic shooting situations. Notable among the special scene modes (which include portrait, night snapshot, kids & pets, indoor, foliage, snow, beach and fireworks settings etc.) are the new ISO 3200 and Aquarium settings that permit low light, no-flash photography in situations where using a flash would ruin a picture by bouncing back off aquarium glass or other reflective surfaces. For those whose photographic passions take them beyond the water’s edge and beneath its surface, the PowerShot G7 camera also has an underwater special scene mode. In order to actually take the camera underwater, users must safely ensconce it in the optional waterproof case WP-DC11, specifically designed for the PowerShot G7 and rated safe to depths of up to 130 feet.

Improving upon Excellence
A combination of technological advancements, as well as the introduction of the DIGIC III image processor has allowed the PowerShot G7 digital camera to become the fastest G series camera to date, with a startup time approximately twice as fast as its predecessor at 1.4 seconds (LCD monitor on). Other firsts on a G series model include Optical Image Stabilization and the addition of 13 new special scene modes for a variety of shooting situations. The PowerShot G7 model also adds the “My Colors” function. Users have added flexibility with an increased ISO sensitivity, which ranges from 80-1600, or as high as ISO 3200 in the special scene mode. With the enhanced noise reduction, users can confidently shoot in low light scenes.

Other New Features of the PowerShot G7 Digital Camera:

—USB 2.0 high speed interface
—SDHC Memory Card/SD Memory Card/MultiMedia Card compatibility
—Addition of “My Colors” function that allows users to creatively adjust the colors, contrast, sharpness and saturation of images for a completely custom look while shooting or during playback.
—25 language menu options
—1024 x 768 XGA movie mode (maximum recording time of 31 minutes)
—16:9 widescreen photos to fit today’s widescreen TV’s
—25 shooting modes including 16 special scene modes, and two user customized shooting modes
—Approximately 20% lighter than PowerShot G6 model (including battery and memory card)
—Hot shoe accommodates Canon 220EX, 430EX, 580EX, MR-14EX** and MT-24EX** Speedlite models
—Sound recorder stores up to two hours of voice memo
—“My Category” makes it easy to sort images while shooting or during playback based on user preferences
—Real time histogram while shooting to check exposure levels
—An Image Inspection tool that, when engaged in the REC. Review mode, permits users to make certain that their images are in focus.

About Canon U.S.A., Inc.
Canon U.S.A., Inc. delivers consumer, business-to-business, and industrial imaging solutions. The company is listed as one of Fortune’s Most Admired Companies in America and is rated #35 on the BusinessWeek list of “Top 100 Brands.” Its parent company Canon Inc. (NYSE:CAJ) is a top patent holder of technology, ranking second overall in the U.S. in 2005, with global revenues of $31.8 billion. For more information, visit http://www.usa.canon.com.

All referenced product names, and other marks, are trademarks of their respective owners.

Specifications and availability are subject to change without notice.

*Pricing subject to change at any time. Actual prices are determined by individual dealers and may vary.

**Requires Conversion Lens Adapter LA-DC58H and Macrolite Adapter 58C. (Close-up Lens 58mm 250D is optional but recommended.).

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#101 nick in japan

I have had good experiences with B&H, I recommend you look at them!

11:22 pm - Friday, October 20, 2006

#102 Ross Finocchio

Karl (#101), I'm in NYC too and was told today by the folks at 17th St Photo (btw 5th and 6th) that they should have the G7 in their showroom by Monday.

3:05 am - Saturday, October 21, 2006

#103 dud3

It's a very good camera. But not good to be called a G7.

It's like buying a lambo at a lambo price, but with no engine.

In G serie you should get RAW. (your starting to become a pro, you can go SLR
ez.)

6:23 am - Wednesday, October 25, 2006

#104 dud3

they could have named it some thing els and it would be fine.

!!!Warning: Bad english inside!!!

6:30 am - Wednesday, October 25, 2006

#105 CARL HAMILTON

to all G7 users : i can fire my G6 and access the camera's basic controls SINGLEHANDEDLY AND STRAPLESS TOO ! bet you can perform the same feat on your downsized G7s . careful and don't attempt this at home fellas or it might impair your right hands' reflexes , that is , if they are still limber enough to catch the camera before it hits da ground . OUCH !

3:29 pm - Wednesday, October 25, 2006

#106 CARL HAMILTON

here's more: try attempting that feat with the wide angle tele-extenders on plus a Canon Speedlite 580EX mounted along . chances are you are gonna blurt some unprintable expletives towards Canon's way . hahahahahahah .... oh Canon , ergonomics is not a dead science and you are surely heading back to the drawing table . hahahahahaahaha . CARL HAMILTON

3:42 pm - Wednesday, October 25, 2006

#107 carl hamilton

fans of CANON could go and take a visit the CANON CAMERA MUSEUM on the Internet and learn so much about how Canon does its business in designing its cameras , its design rationale , its core values , its complete line of analog and digital cameras , its leading-edge photographic technologies , plus its rise from humble beginnings towards what the company is today . happy reading !

8:10 pm - Wednesday, October 25, 2006

#108 tassosGR

hello to everyone! i read almost all the comments avaliable here.
i am looking for a new cammera for about 1 year now but nothing satisfied me. i didnt want an DSLR tooooo big and need alot of money for new lences e.t.c and generally too profesional for me. i just wanted a 10 megapixel full capable cammera. and i think that is exactly what canon is trying to offer. i mean i am an average user , that loves photos and wants good quality. Never used RAW, i didnt even know what it was 3 months ago :-) .
so to conclude my comment i have to say that i really like the new G7. of course i was also thinking about the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50, but its BIG i mean you look stupid in a party with such a cammera (hello the camera men).
finally about the lcd sreen: ok the flip (or watever is called) screen would be better... but i like the big screen. and moreover the flip screen i think it would be easier to brake and as i read it would have made the cammera larger (wouldnt want that), also its not a feature i would defenetelly want to have, i can live without. i mean look at panasonic DMC-FZ50 they have a really stupid flip screen which flips at the bottom of the camera and not at the side :bug: CONFUSING..

11:15 am - Friday, October 27, 2006

#109 tassosGR

oh forgot i am thinking of buying the G7 today. here in greece i found it with 485euro. i think a good price for what it offers.

11:19 am - Friday, October 27, 2006

#110 CARL HAMILTON

Tassos , i have got news for you : stop thinking about it and go straight to the camera store and purchase your beloved Canon G7 . i am quite sure that the two of you would nicely compliment each other with your cool and sharp looks in the thick of some really groovy partying ! how is the weather in the azure Aegean ?

11:33 am - Friday, October 27, 2006

#111 tassosGR

the weather is great today alot of sun! great day to go out and take pictures :lol:

11:35 am - Friday, October 27, 2006

#112 nick in japan

You are going to regret not having that "stupid" swivel screen that swivels all over the place, a beloved added feature that puts Panasonic up near the top! (IMHO)

12:06 pm - Friday, October 27, 2006

#113 tassosGR

you might be right... i am going to the shop see very closelly both cammeras and decide then!

12:07 pm - Friday, October 27, 2006

#114 nick in japan

"Hands-on" evaluation is like test driving a car, always recommended! Good luck, and, keep us informed please!

12:21 pm - Friday, October 27, 2006

#115 GARY POGODA

While you're there, you may want to evaluate the Canon A710 IS, as well.

1:35 pm - Friday, October 27, 2006

#116 Tom

I’m having a honeymoon with my G7 and enjoying every minute, she’s a real beauty. I’m amazed at the efficiency. I always shoot at the highest pixel & super fine resolution, you never know when you might get that one you want to blow way up or crop big time and with a 2 gig card I can set 480 shoots. FLASH -- Maybe I’m reading it wrong but on the download software instructions with XP which I feel many, if not most use, they say it’s not necessary to use their software and I quote “ If Service Pack 1 or Service Pack 2 is installed – Use Windows Explorer to download RAW images since the Scanners and Camera Wizard cannot download them. It does go on to say you can’t have sound memo attachments on the images. Can any one tell me, is this the Raw many were disappointed in the G7 not being able to do? If so it can with those limitations. I have no desire or want of Raw Images but I know many of you do and wanted to convey this info along. If anyone wants more info on what the software instructions say let me know by way of this forum. Tom

10:47 pm - Friday, October 27, 2006

#117 GARY POGODA

Tom, if only it were so.

11:08 pm - Friday, October 27, 2006

#118 Grant

G7 looks to be by far the best G yet. Best handling and usability by far. Canon are the best at on-the-job shooting performance, and the G7 raises the bar for non-SLR. Best lens range. Stabilisation is a boon that makes a camera 10x more practical. Forget G6 and earlier, forget R1 unless you use a tripod (silly).

Swivelling tiny screen? Normally it's packed face down for protection so it slows down the startup process; not good. It can be useful, but why sacrifice the benefits of a large legible screen much better suited to adjusting camera settings and review of shots for successful results (which is useful 100% of the time) for a swivel advantage on 1%-5% of shots?? Not a good tradeoff: Canon got it right.

RAW is basically for theoretical idealists; tests show no visible differences from JPEG in 240dpi and 300dpi prints. Pros shoot in JPEG for weddings, magazine shoots and National Geo. Actually RAW is not even for idealists because it bogs down shooting so badly; any decent idealist would choose to shoot in JPEG because it lets you keep the mind on the subject not the tool.

Show me actual prints of handheld shots using G5/6 RAW and G7 JPEG that show the superiority of having RAW. (try to ignore the blurred non-IS shot!)

It is no secret that the lighting near dawn and dusk is more photogenic than in the middle of the day, and I have always found myself struggling for camera settings that allow handheld photography in the photogenic light at the ends of the daylight. Ditto for indoors without flash. I suggest the G7 is ideal for such work, with its IS and good performance for a compact above ISO100. Canon seem to have made the improvements that make *visibly* better photos, and sacrificed nothing that affects photos *visibly*.

8:45 am - Tuesday, October 31, 2006

#119 GARY POGODA

Grant, I wouldn't argue, but I would point out that there is one definite
advantage to RAW for which you are not accounting, namely, flexibility
in post-processing, as compared to JPEG where you are "locked in" by
your choice of camera settings made at the time of shooting.

Besides, would it have killed Canon to include it? :)

12:11 pm - Tuesday, October 31, 2006

#120 Grant

Gary, you mentioned the lack of RAW in post #2 and still going in #119. It may be selfish, it may be wrong, but it won't visibly affect your prints.

Come to think of it, how can that be wrong?

You can make your photos more RAW-like by shooting in neutral white balance and post-processing every image. But I won't be.

8:41 am - Wednesday, November 1, 2006

#121 GARY POGODA

The reason why JPEG image quality can even compare with RAW is
because the in-camera processing is applied to a 12-bit RAW image,
and after all the processing is done, information can be thrown away
in such a way so as to still be visually pleasing at 8-bits; however; a
weakness of JPEG is if you have to do further processing on the 8-bit
image (i.e., you'd be much better off going back to the 12-bit RAW).

So your suggestion to shoot in neutral white balance and post-process
every image in an attempt to improve JPEG flexibility, actually defeats
JPEG's main strength for achieving image quality comparable to RAW.

Now if you were using 16-bit TIFF, your idea might work. :)

1:47 pm - Wednesday, November 1, 2006

#122 Grant

Can a G7 owner tell me whether the focus assist light is IR or is it visible light?

5:01 am - Friday, November 3, 2006

#123 tassosGR

its a visible green light. and the cammera os wonderful i got friday and i spend a wonderful weekend with her. the fetures are endless. i can not imagine what more you could need from a camera especially a compact one. just the best of the best out there. (ok exept the raw, which you dont really need) perfect pictures, perfect ligh, perfect colors. if you cant get a good picture with this cammera you wont with any.

9:48 am - Monday, November 6, 2006

#124 CARL HAMILTON

wa - hey Tassos , what a way to go ! congratulations to you . now you finally bagged the camera of your dreams . wish that the honeymoon would never end and that you both would live happily ever after despite the ravages of strained right-hand reflexes due to the absence of a proper camera grip handle in support while manipulating basic camera control buttons made during your frenzied gyrations on the disco floor . a thoroughly abused eyesight cause your subject perception had to compensate for the loss of that useful vari-angle lcd panel specially when taking overhead shots of your favorite celebrities when a thick crowd fronting you prevents you from taking that once in a lifetime shot . but what of it , anyway , when Canon endowed the G7 with rock - steady stabilization and lightning fast Digic III imaging engine to instantaneously aid you in your target aquisition . nevertheless , your retro-minimalist dcam really has all the party gal looks that eventually suits your lifestyle to a T ! if all my blabbering sounds Greek to you ( all pun intended ), just chill it ... all that i am saying is that if the Canon G7 works like a million dollar babe to you , then get hitched . after all , marriage is far from perfect .

2:06 pm - Monday, November 6, 2006

#125 tassosGR

do oyu like being a anoying like that really. first of all you dont know me. second of all, canon has a great product! have you even touched the G7???? have you even taken one picture???? why do you make fun of me? here you can see some of my pics taken with much much worce camera one 2,5 megapixel and a 4 megapixel ( my 2 old cameras) imagine what i will do with G7. http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/free/gallery.asp?memberID=172479

2:25 pm - Monday, November 6, 2006

#126 CARL HAMILTON

by way of mentioning , Tassos , just had my first look of the G7 as it reached the shops here in Hongkong . just as i thought , it wants to be known as a mini Leica/Panasonic D3/DMC-L1 . i am afraid it is nowhere near in that arena . nice try , Canon . i say that your funky Sketchbook as well as your T80 cameras were far more thoughtfully configured than your current offering . i reached for my good ol' G6 and noticed once again that it feels securely held and that all its control buttons/dials FALL EXACTLY into the digits of my shooting hand . congratulations , Canon . there are certain instances in your production lifecycle that you remain true to your mission statement : TO CREATE CAMERAS THAT ARE USEFUL TO HUMANS . it is so unfortunate that this moment is not one of those .

2:36 pm - Monday, November 6, 2006

#127 tassosGR

it seems there is something personal between you and canon .... hahahahahahaha good luck! but i must say this if you havent used canon G7 or any other product its really strange how you have such a strong oposition towards this product and generally canon. with the budget of 500euro which i spend this is the best camera that money could buy! do you even know the fetures that are included in this machine? anyway i am a hapy hapy user nomatter what you say! and i believe that there will be MANY happy user as me! if you have any complains about canon take it up with them. I actually have canon G7 (which you dont), so i also have an opinion. but you can continue your anti-canon anti-G7 campain.... good luck.

2:45 pm - Monday, November 6, 2006

#128 CARL HAMILTON

hi there Tassos ! would like you to know that my felicitations were not tinged with malice of any sort . i am simply happy for your purchase and i share the joy of your recent discovery . like a long lost treasure found , you know the feeling , don't you ? i take it that you are a fun guy that is why i revved my motor up . my apologies to you of course if you were offended by my light jesting and by the way , nice interesting photos you took . shows a lot of promise from an aspiring photographer like yourself .thanks but no for offering the G7 for trials . am happily married to my G6 , unless of course Canon listens and fits future G series with a potent 24MP 35mm full-frame sensor vis-a vis a stabilized 24-200 f2.8 ground - glass aspherical flourite zoom lens, all with a nice hand-filling grip and a 3inch wide flipLCD , of course .i hope that the sun is still up and shining bright in the Aegean . cheers !

3:07 pm - Monday, November 6, 2006

#129 tassosGR

here is a pictures i got with my canon G7 yesterday from my aquarium. and fro those who have tried to get picture of an aquarium you know how difficult it is to get it right!
(the picture is taken with the special aquarium mode in the G7 with no editing nothing its right of the camera).
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1684/img0432zq4.jpg
and here are some more... (in all pics just size has been reduced)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/159/img0247oi2.jpg
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/276/img0269ko2.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6411/img0270al0.jpg
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9937/img0276aw9.jpg

3:25 pm - Monday, November 6, 2006

#130 Bruce

Hey there, I just picked up a new G7 and was wondering if anyone knows where I could find a tutorial for new users/digital photographers?

8:29 pm - Monday, November 6, 2006

#131 Chema

Hey carl, is it ask too much if I ask you to think about what you are going to say before post it here? O man... a full frame ccd + 24-120 2,8 inside a canon G7? I was laughting for 2 minutes before I saw you were actually talking seriously. that's so naive... lol only the lens would be like 1kg with that max apperture. Have you seen the R1?? and thats only an APS CCD. Man what you want does exist, and it's the company you love so much who made it, it's name is Canon 5d.

4:25 am - Wednesday, November 8, 2006

#132 Grant

Hi Carl, re post #128 I hope Canon make a G8 exactly like you wished for. The full-frame sensor will dictate that it will be the size and price of the EOS-1DsMkII (160x160x80mm and 1.2kg) with the EF 28-300L lens (92mm dia x 180mm long and 1.7kg). You will probably be the only buyer so the price had better be set for full R&D recovery from one unit sale. I will enjoy reading your justification of how this non-SLR monster that seriously needs a tripod fits the G-series concept better than the G7 does.

Or, buy a G7 and trial it for 6 months then sell whichever G6 or G7 you adjudge is least useful to you. You will find the G7 clumsy at first because by now your fingers are adapted to the G6 ergos. However once your fingers have learned the G7 it will become second nature. The moral of this tale is, Try Before You Cry.

11:08 am - Wednesday, November 8, 2006

#133 jose

i just bought a g7 in hong kong, users manual is in mandarin, where can i donwload or find an english version?

10:41 pm - Friday, November 10, 2006

#134 CARL HAMILTON

hello there Grant and Chema . looks like there's not a shortage of anti- 35mm high resolution CMOS sensors around here . well now , welcome to the club . i may not be a qualified electro-optical engineer but i can only say these : since time immemorial , people were in the habit of laughing contemptously towards the radical ideas of some individuals who dared to dream . the invention of the airplane , the construction of both the Suez and the Panama Canals , the flight to and the subsequent landing/exploration on the moon and back by mankind , and not so recently , the rendering of practical availability of the Personal Computer to the layman which were all then previously considered matters of absolute impossibility . it is probable too that some guy or two might have also been ridiculing a person when he proposed for the introduction of an autofocusing camera before its time . well guess what ? these " dreamers' " ideas took flight and made it into history , sad to say , these naysayers didn't even make it on its pages . i 'd like to think that the only thing that deters you to accept the idea of installing full frame sensors on prosumer cameras is the artificially - inflated cost of manufacturing this component . R&D COSTS , Grant ? CMOS technology is right here and right now . consider Canon's very own words on its Technology website : " CANONs SEMICONDUCTOR PRODUCTION TECHNOLOGIES PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CMOS SENSOR . WE HAVE DEVELOPED A PARTITION EXPOSURE TECHNOLOGY UNDER WHICH EACH 35MM FULL-FRAME CMOS SENSOR IS EXPOSED THREE TIMES , AND EACH OF THE EXPOSURES ARE ULTRAPRECISELY BONDED WITH THE OTHERS . THIS METHOD ALLOWED US TO PRODUCE A LARGE , HIGH-PRECISION CMOS SENSOR AT A RELATIVELY LOW COST . THE FULL-FRAME 35MM HIGH RESOLUTION CMOS SENSOR PERFORMS ON A PAR WITH 35MM FILM AND IS CONTINUING TO EVOLVE AS A KEY DEVICE IN THE DIGITAL CAMERA . " Canon is the inventor and the only current in - house manufacturer of this type of sensor and it is easy to understand at why they would like to financially reap their rewards by exclusively equipping this technological marvel only into their top echelon DSLR or its equally "affordable " EOS 5d stablemate . truth of the matter is that the full-frame sensor per se need not be THAT EXPENSIVE .the raw materials required for its manufacture are as readily available as any modern-day chip assembly , MASS-PRODUCED WITH THE AID OF MACHINES . if perhaps the CMOS sensor was meticulously built by hand , piece by piece like a Swiss chronometer , then that would perhaps justify its premium price , but it ain't ! . Canon would like us consumers to believe so because of its exclusivity and that because they want us to buy their pricey cameras for the immediate return of their investment . Canon ' s competitors should find a way to introduce their own full frame CMOS sensors in order to level the playing field forcing Canon to tag its digital cameras realistically . as per the issue again of the IMPOSSIBILITY of incorporating this technology into prosumer cameras , you might be delighted to know that Canon is actively pursuing nanotechnology , a field of science dealing with miniaturization . that should be enough to make skeptics understand that their imagined problem at hand can be resolved . if anyone has further doubts that Canon could not feasibly mass produce a fully-featured prosumer camera that can trounce the G7 , it already had , in the form of the Canon Powershot Pro 1 . all it needs is major redesign with a full-frame CMOS sensor .

9:29 pm - Sunday, November 12, 2006

#135 carl hamilton

oh Grant . just happened to carefully inspect a G7 recently and lo ! my suspicions were undoubtedly correct . the camera has lousy ergonomics due to the absence of a proper grip . same goes for the fixed - mounted2.5 LCD screen which was rendered useless by its inability to fully articulate . and the much vaunted DIGIC III . not that fast as i expected it would. 10MP image quality ? pound for pound , the G6 can take on the G7 anytime . the Internet's customers and independent reviewers comments as well as my personal usage would be my case. try operating that that quick control dial using one hand minus the strap (one looks genuinely like a tourist with it on a G7 ) that poor soap - bar inspired newfangled contraption would easily fly off your hand unlike the G6s very secure location , thanks to the extra support provided by its robust grip . when all is said and done, Grant , this is all i would advice : GET A GRIP !

9:49 pm - Sunday, November 12, 2006

#136 Chema

Carl, you don't get it man. The idea is great, and if it was faisable if would be done. But when we get to that technology in optics there will be no more CMOS CCD sensors but an other nano-organic-photosensible technology (or what do I know...). Of course I want a full frame compact camera, and wy not a full frame medium format compact camera or better, a full frame large format compact camera of the side of a g7. you will not be alive when a compact 35mm fullframe with megazoom f:2,8 and the side of a G7 see the light. And the problem is not Canon but phisics. You can not JET change the form and side of a glas to collaps it dude. How can you be so naive to think that no one have already think about that perfect camera. And don't you think that camera would exist already for film?? and don't you think... at all?? I'm sure your right about canon's way of doing busines but your ideas just sound stupid when you justify it saying "hey why can't we have a full frame 35mm megazoom 2,8 of a G7 size and the form of a Pro1"

4:57 am - Sunday, November 19, 2006

#137 Goerge

I'm trying to decide between the G7 and the S80. Which one is better?

http://www.vsxl.com/cameras/Canon_PowerShot_G7_vs_Canon_PowerShot_S80.html

10:29 am - Sunday, November 19, 2006

#138 J.P.

PART I:

Hey guys,

Count me as naive, but I love my new G7. I got my G7 two days before I left for some NGO (not-for-profit) work to tsunami affected villages in India. Here's what I loved and did not love so much about the camera.

Loved:

* Small, and light (I am use to SLR cameras). The G7 made it easier to blend in so that my subjects typically went about their business while I was photographing. Eventually they caught on, but the initial candid shots were difficult with the EOS 1D Mark II we had. The G7 made for spectacular candid shots that were rich with emotion and reality. This is very difficult when you're in a foreign environment since your mere presence tends to be a spectacle. We work in remote villages where American's rarely visit. To be able to "fade" into the background while daily life happened made for very powerful shots.

* 10 MP images that were sharp as could be (when the auto focus got it right). The colors were rich and very representative of what I was trying to capture. Our senior photographer was stunned when he witnessed the results on my laptop each evening. He started off very skeptical when I told him I was going with the G7 prior to our departure, but by the end of the trip, he was thinking of picking up a G7 to compliment his EOS 1D Mark II – it’s not a replacement, but its small size and great image quality make for a fine compliment to his clearly superior pro-camera.

* The macro lens made some very interesting up close pictures of people. Our senior photographer (there were two of us photographers on a team of 15) who was using a very nice EOS 1D Mark II with some killer $L$ series lenses even asked if I actually had a wide angle lens on the G7 since the macro capability combined with the zoom pulled full out made for some really neat up close face shots. This worked especially well with the kids who we tend to tower over.

* The image stabilization lens combined with high ISO capabilities made for some great natural light pictures. There's nothing worse than using a flash when you're trying to capture emotionally charged situations. Villagers were able to express themselves while I quietly photographed with minimal intrusion. This was also possible because the camera is so quiet and small. The EOS 1D Mark II is huge and noisy. I’m surprised that with all the effort put into making the Ultrasonic lenses so quiet, that canon’s curtain still thunders every time you take a picture. It does make for a very authentic pro-journalist feel though – but this tends to pull the attention of individuals who are not so use to devices that cost more than they can earn over multiple years of hard work.

* FAST. I was usually able to start up my camera from being powered off and snap a shot of something that I saw racing towards me from the back of my “auto-rickshaw” to get a reasonable composition of what I planned in my minds eye. This is the only non-SLR digital camera that I’ve used that suffered no hesitation and started up so quickly. All the other team members who were using point and shoots kept asking me how my camera got those shots - $ was my answer. LoL. It’s definitely not cheap for a point and shoot.

* High capacity – this is more a function of the 4 GB SD chip I had, but the ability to store about 900 images at full resolution & quality made it possible to shoot pictures to my hearts content every day without concern for space. I was averaging about 500 shots a day.

* Ease of use. I know many people are complaining about such and such being easier to use. I don’t have the disadvantage of having to unlearn a prior point and shoot, so the G7 seemed great to me. Once I mastered its wealth of features, I was able to switch with minimal effort. The dedicated ISO wheel made for easy changes in rapidly changing lighting conditions. Imagine being in an unlit hut one minute, then being pulled outside to a sunny beach the next only to find yourself taking pictures of an old man working on a fishing net under a dense covering of palm trees a few minutes later. Easy access to ISO made the difference. I remember when I used the original EOS Elan. I knew that thing inside and out. I hated the EOS 1 series when I first tried one, but I quickly mastered them as well. It’s all about knowing your equipment. There’s nothing particularly bad about the G7’s interface that stood out – and trust me, I’m pretty picky about interfaces.

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9:49 am - Monday, November 20, 2006

#139 J.P.

PART II:

Loved Continued:

* Great screen. When you’re not using an SLR, it’s hard to tell if you got the focus you planned on. This kinda drives me crazy since I’m an SLR guy – I can’t stand not being able to see what I am actually getting in detail before I take the picture. I’m not saying the G7 is comparable to an SLR in any way in this regard, but at least it made it easier to zoom in and check for clear focus on the part of my subject I wanted. As far as the swivel screen is concerned: EOS 1’s have never had swivel screens and the majority of pro-photographers have done great without them. If you love your art, then you should have no problem getting down on your back to get that occasional picture that requires a unique perspective. I know I found myself doing this a few times, but again, I’m an SLR guy so I felt right at home. Not to mention, I feel kind of dumb trooping around a slum in a developing nation and returning to my hotel with my kaki’s unsoiled. My G7 solved this problem nicely. LoL.

* Rugged. I placed my G7 on my back pack on top of my bed when I was in a hurry to get out the door. I grabbed my backpack not realizing my camera was on top and slung it across the room only to hear what sounded like a water bottle clashing on the hard stone floor. When I realized what I had done, my heart sank and I knew my photographic journey was over for this round in India. To my surprise, I picked up the camera, ran through all the systems and found it to be 100% functional – though there’s a new dent in the lower left hand corner of the front face that drives me crazy (yes I’m one of those guys that hates pulling off the plastic cover protection film thing on new devices). Thank God the G7 is so rugged because some of my best shots were yet to come.

* Fully retracting lens with built in lens cover. I laughed at the number of times the people on the team were lamenting having misplaced their lens caps. Also, the flat profile of the camera, when turned off, made it really easy to throw in my back pack with little concern for the lens.

Not so Loved:

* Focus. The EOS 1D Mark II has a much smaller auto focus square that makes for some very precise focus. I can hone in on the tip of someone’s nose if I want. The G7… not so much… the large clumsy green focus square made for some frustrating shots where the G7 picked some random part of a persons face to focus on. And yes, I know about the magic Digic III face recognition feature. I played around with it and found the center focus more familiar and much faster, which is a must when you’re surrounded by countless photo ops at one time. I felt the same when the EOS 3 came out – neat feature from an ooo—ahhh standpoint, but not for me when it comes to day-to-day guerrilla photography. Automation, when it comes to selecting what I choose to focus on when I’m composing my shot, is not for me. The large screen made it easier to verify my shots focused where I wanted them to, but a more precise “focus square” would be nice in a future firmware upgrade.

* Focus assist. I know this is a point-and-shoot, but the absolute need for the green focus beam in most situations was annoying. It’s hard to be candid when there’s an alien light flashing on your subject’s nose. Most didn’t notice it, but it did ruin a few candid shots. I’m pretty sure at least a couple modern close-encounter abduction stories start with a Canon Auto Focus Assist beam. Couldn’t they figure out a way to do this outside the visible spectrum?

* Lens dust. India is a beautiful place. It’s also a very dirty place. When you’re plugging along in the back of a two-stroke auto-rickshaw surrounded by about one hundred other auto-rickshaws exhausting a white cloud of burnt oil while a bus is spewing its exhaust into your face and an ox-pulled cart kicks up dust in the middle of a million car traffic jam, things get a little dirty. I found dust on the inside of my lens very early on in my journey. If the G7 is meant to be a semi-pro point-and-shoot, then they need to really work on sealing the lens better. By the end of the first week, I had something in the lens that showed up in pictures that were fully zoomed in with the focus at infinity. This was frustrating and makes for a lot of extra and very unnecessary photo shop work! It will be interesting to see if Canon repairs this under warranty. I hope they don’t plan on blaming the camera drop, since that happened after the contamination was already apparent.

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9:52 am - Monday, November 20, 2006

#140 J.P.

Not so Loved Continued:

* Battery life. I could get roughly 250 shots with the battery that came with the camera. I brought along a higher capacity second battery. Between the two, I usually made it through the day, but it made for a pain in recharging every night since I now had two batteries I had to remember. If I had more time at each location, I could have gone from an average of 500 shots a day to 750 shots a day – this would have probably required a third battery.

* View finder. Well, let’s just say it’s not an SLR… LOL. But that’s ok. The screen made up for it.

* Noise. The ISO 1600 setting seems pretty noisy. I have nothing to compare it to, but everyone seems to say that the noise has been significantly reduced… I hate to have seen what it might have looked like before the Digic III since the Digic III left a little to be desired. I have yet to print a photo taken at ISO 1600 on an 8x6. The noise might blend in… we’ll see.

* Awkward balance with an external flash. I decided to hook our senior photographer’s 580 EX flash to the G7. Comedy is the word that comes to mind. The huge flash on the little body reminded me of those little gangster kids that wear the XXXL t-shirts. The balance was impossible to manage as well. It’s like mounting a Gatling gun on your grandma’s walker. I’ll have to try one of the smaller external flashes to see if they are more practical.

* Aperture. I’ve heard that the aperture is not the same with a smaller CCD as with a 35mm camera, so an f/2.8-8.0 lens on the G7 is the equivalent of a wider range on a 35mm?? I haven’t verified this, but I did wish that the G7 stopped down to something greater than f/8.0. Some of the depth of field shots I was going for didn’t come out as crisp as I had wanted and there was plenty of light to keep my shutter speed up while giving up a few more f-stops.

Conclusion:

Sometimes we get too caught up in our tools. Good photography is about image composition, a creative eye, and a good bedside manner. I can’t tell you how many great photos I got not because I had xyz super camera, but because I took the time to bond with my subjects.

I know many of you guys are mad about the swivel LCD, the RAW, and the remote control. The swivel is something I’ve never had with any SLR camera I owned, so I managed without it as I always have in the past – excellently. The RAW format is something that we almost never use. The images are HUGE and we have yet to see a real difference outside of the “lab” environment. If not using it is good enough for National Geographic, its good enough for me. Interestingly, I spoke about RAW with our senior photographer trooping around with his EOS 1D Mark II and he laughed. His assessment was that the extra hassle with the minimal returns didn’t make shooting RAW worth it in most situations. So be as idealistic as you want and make your purchases accordingly. I did not miss RAW a bit because I rarely use it when it is an option. As for the lack of a remote – yeah… a little annoying… but not enough to offset my love for the G7’s strengths. If you really need that capability, then set the auto-timer to a custom time and use that. It’s not the same, but it’s a reasonable work around.

When all is said and done, I love my G7. I used the heck out of it and put it through its course in a harsh developing nation with a huge range of shooting situations. It’s a rugged little camera that works hard to earn its keep. I abused it and it kept on going (with a scar here and there as proof). My 3 week old G7 shows more than a years worth of aging after my journey to India, and it did great! The compliments I have received on my photos are flattering. Ultimately, however, the purpose of my photos is to raise awareness and money to help the poorest of the poor recover from a devastating disaster. My G7 worked wonders in helping state-side locals empathize with the great need abroad. My first presentation was today and it went wonderfully.

I plan on picking up an EOS 1D Mark II N or possibly an EOS 1Ds Mark II (if business is good to me) in the next four months to replace my EOS A2E 35mm body, but I will still always carry my G7 with me regardless, because it fills a niche wonderfully and because it served me so well in India. Also, the senior photographer on my team is seriously contemplating complimenting his EOS 1D Mark II with a G7 for the same reasons. Good job Canon, thanks for making great equipment to help in our endeavor to document the world! ;-)

9:53 am - Monday, November 20, 2006

#141 GARY POGODA

JP, a great account of your G7 usage. What about the handling? Any
problems gripping the camera?

That dust issue worries me. I would be interested to hear how Canon
handles this for you.

As for the aperture difference, the G7's smaller CCD will provide for a
wider depth of field than a larger CCD (at the same f-stop) so you will
not need to stop the G7's lens down as much to get that "crisp" image
(all other things being equal).

3:12 pm - Monday, November 20, 2006

#142 J.P.

Gary, thanks for the info on the depth of field. I will be taking my Camera in today or tomorrow to my regional Canon repair center. I'll keep you guys posted. I have an extended warranty that pretty much lets me replace the camera even if it's a pile of pieces (so long as I still have the pieces), but hopefully it doesn't come to that.

There are 58mm adapter tubes that allow you to place lens filters on the G7. I'm thinking of picking up one of those before my next trip to reduce the amount of junk that makes it to my lens. It's also a plus because I hate the idea of the actual optics being exposed directly to the elements. The bummer of the tube, though, is that it defeats the glory of a totally retracting lens. I guess I can still remove the tube and store it when it comes time to throw my G7 in my back pack.

On the plus side, it will be nice to have a UV filter as well as a polarizing filter.

5:52 pm - Monday, November 20, 2006

#143 GARY POGODA

Keeping in mind that the G7 is only a $600 camera, if it were my G7,
the convenience of a fully retractable lens would be worth more than
the added protection afforded by a lens adapter. This is all assuming
that the dust entry was just a fluke, rather than a regular occurrence.

2:09 am - Tuesday, November 21, 2006

#144 simon

Many many negative reviews, then a fantastic review from a photographer out in the field, in India, taking photos. Its easy to sit and pick fault with the difference between what you 'dreamed' the G7 WOULD be and what the G7 IS.
I've been out there, used the G7 too, and its a great camera, not perfect, but hey, if it was perfect what would be the point in Canon making SLR's.
I think if we consider todays market, the features, the robustness, and the camera as a whole, its a great compact.
If you hate it, go, spend more money and get a DSLR, noones stopping you?

12:38 am - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#145 J.P.

So I took the G7 into Canon. I'm waiting to hear back from them. It was funny watching the expression on the guys face when he saw the G7. It was like watching a kid being handed some new toy. He took it back to the techs, and he came back with a big smile saying they were all huddling around it.

They probably weren't expecting to see a G7 less than a month after it rolled out into this local market. :-p.

He observed how much faster the G7 is than previous G series cameras and I have to imagine he's a bit of an authority since this is a regional Canon repair center that probably gets a ton of traffic.

As far as the lens tube is concerned, I agree with you. I'd like to avoid it if possible. The problem isn't so much the value of the camera as it is the impossibility of resolving the problem when I'm out in the "field." The techs at Canon say the lens is sealed, so hopefully this doesn't happen again. I'm definitely going to use the living day lights out of the camera before I leave on my next trip though to make sure the problem is truly resolved.

Canon currently thinks it will be repaired under warranty. The fact that I dropped the camera (as they can tell from the scuff mark) might call that into question - though they didn't see how dropping the camera could lead to the contamination problem I was having. The problem started before I dropped the camera, but convincing them of that will be difficult if they decide not to fix it under warranty. I'll keep you guys posted on the repair.

11:49 am - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#146 carl hamilton

say CHEMA , i did not know that Neanderthalspeak is again fashionably vogue these days . you should consider applying for a patent .

7:49 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#147 carl hamilton

oh JP , it would be good information if you could reveal to us the circumstances surrounding the dropping of your G7 .

7:54 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#148 Chema

Carl. Thats because of Hollywood, that's how I've learned english. But... I hope people did understud what I meaned.

8:09 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#149 carl hamilton

A OK , CHEMA . NO PROBLEM HERE .

8:49 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#150 J.P.

oh Carl... carelessness is the only thing that led to the dropping of my canon. I placed it on my black backpack, which the G7 blends into rather well. I was in a huge hurry to get out of the hotel because people were waiting on me. I grabbed my backpack and as a result flung the G7 across the room. It hit a hard rock tile floor. All things considered it held up really well. You have to look for the damage to notice it, the canon guy didn't notice it until I made the mistake of pointing it out... lol. oh well. The tech would have found it.

Based on the sound it made hitting the ground, I thought I had broken it, but it lasted me the rest of the India trip...

8:51 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#151 J.P.

Question: Has anyone used the telephoto or wide angle adapters on the G7? If so, how'd you like them? Are they threaded for additional filters (UV, polarizing, etc)?

Thanks...

8:54 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#152 CARL HAMILTON

CHEMA , BUT COULD YOU JUST DROP THE TERMS STUPID , NAIVE . THEY SOUND PRETTY ROUGH ON THE EARS YOU KNOW . I AM CERTAIN THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE TREATED IN THE SAME MANNER , IS IT NOT ? THINK PIERCE BROSNAN AND HIS SUAVE DEMEANOR . HE IS A FINE EXAMPLE OF THE HOLLYWOOD THING YOU ARE TELLING ME ABOUT . THANKS , DUDE .

8:55 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#153 CARL HAMILTON

WOW THAT ! YOUR BRAND NEW DCAM AN INSTANT CASUALTY FIGURE IN ITS EARLY STAGES . I KNOW WELL THE FEELING...

8:58 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#154 Derek

Is the G7 better than FZ50?

Or the FZ50 is better ?

11:45 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#155 GARY POGODA

The G7 is better for carrying in your pocket.
The G7 is better for low image noise at higher ISOs.
The FZ50 is equal to or better for prit' near everything else. :)

12:21 am - Thursday, November 23, 2006

#156 J.P.

Canon service centers rock! Summary: I took my camera to India. I took 3500 pictures. I loved the camera. India took its toll. There was visible contamination on the CCD that would show up at infinite focus.

I took the camera in on Monday to my local Canon Service Center (its a 30 min drive from my home). It's now Wednesday and they've already shipped it back to me (Fedex second day). So I should have it in a couple of days. They cleaned the CCD under warranty. No questions asked.

Three day turn around! God bless Canon.

12:38 am - Thursday, November 23, 2006

#157 D.Straton

Well, yeah sure swivel screen is great...for movies only in my opinion. I usually have a DSLR so I could care less about it...the fact it has a viewfinder - even if limited - is more of a plus than that screen.

RAW has saved my butt a few times, I admit, but only because I took a shot I knew/should have known was near impossible...if you know your exposure rules, usually not an issue. As I've gotten better skill-wise, I went stratight back to JPEG. And the above posts are right: many magazine and newspaper pros use JPEGs as the quality issues real world aren't huge if you can get your white balance and exposure correct. JPEG should not be a deal breaker here...

So I got one. And you know what after 15 minutes of goofing around, the ergonomics started working...and it has a few features I wish my 20D had. The Lens-IS is great, and up to 400ISO, very good quality, and all of my photos were low-light...noise where you'd expect it. The fully retractable lens is great, as is the built in lens cap.

...and it is built like a freakin' tank people, I wish my DSLR was like this camera. The quality is outstanding. I like the form as I can put it in a pocket.

11:29 pm - Monday, November 27, 2006

#158 nick in japan

#157, sorry to interject a comment, but your first statement, well, begs for reply..
Swivel screens take up space, granted, not alot, but yes, the mechanism is added size, BUT, unless you take all your pictures standing upright, in a classic position, being without a swivel is just plain ignorant!
Low, ground-level shots, upward looking shots under that hybiscus with nothing but a clear-blue sky above, hand-held, above the crowd shots, tricky, around the corner shots... the list goes on and on.. without a swivel screen, many of these shots are just passed-up, and that's the last thing a photographer wants to say, "I passed that shot up because I coldn't get a good angle on it"!!!
I suspect that you have never used a swivel screen, please do, and open the door to many, many more great shots you are and will miss without one!
OK, you invested in the brick, I recommend you back it up with a used FZ model, prices are good and you will, I promise, be a happier camper!
IMHO!
Good shooting, good luck!

1:07 am - Tuesday, November 28, 2006

#159 marika

G7 or lumix LX2? OK so I read the WHOLE blog, learned alot, and got me convinced on the G7 been doing my homework for a week on the G7, anyone knows about movie quality, I want to replace my canon s400 & digicam, but of course photo quality is more important, I know I may seem like an amateur jumping to a G7. But still wondering if photo quality is better on the LX2??? Help!
Marika

2:16 am - Wednesday, November 29, 2006

#160 GARY POGODA

Photo quality is better on the G7, but if you want to shoot a lot of 16:9
or RAW, the LX2 might be a better choice.

6:32 am - Wednesday, November 29, 2006

#161 marika

How about movie quality, I know it won't replace a digicam, but is it reasonable on a PC screen or even TV? I hear over three years they've improved, anyone HAS A MOVIE CLIP of the G7 I could check out??
..TXS Gary for info.

8:00 pm - Wednesday, November 29, 2006

#162 Piparix

Terrible noise.. :-!

http://www.highiso.net/canon/canon-powershot-g7.html

10:05 pm - Monday, December 4, 2006

#163 Jean Patrige

I've previously owned a G2 and I still have my G6. The fix LCD seems to upset mostly everyone. The lack of RAW is another problem. I bought my G7 and in many issues its a better and worst camera than de G6.

Good
-Much easier to use
-More compact
-Live histogram (I really missed it in a G6)
-More info on the LCD
-The LCD display may be seen in direct sunlight
-Superb quality and finish
-Image Stabilization really works great (expect no miracles, though)
-The new dial and interface are great for using manual mode
-Digic III processor works great
-Better macro (1cm vs 5cm)
-6x zoom insted of 3x zoom
-Faster overall operation
-10 Megapixels

Bad
-Nobody notices, but the G7 doesn't have a remote infrared shooter
-Fixed LCD
-No RAW shooting
-Sower lens
-Terrible noise at 800, 1600 and 3200 ISO

I do believe that Canon took a big risk with the G7. Actually this camera doesn't seem to fit the "G" badge. Its like a class on its own: it's not a cheaper A series, nor an ultra-compact SD series, but also is not a G. I think it's a very good camera on its own. It has strenghts and is weak in some points. Swivel LCD is great, but I can live with a fixed one. I don't shot RAW pics, at least not in a compact camera. I don't see the point on including useless high ISO speeds.

Overall I really like the G7 and it suits my needs. I think the camera deserves a try, you may really like it once it is in your hands. Or you may compare it to other brands and models, Canon has now a tough competition.

7:08 pm - Saturday, December 23, 2006

#164 OscarNates

Regarding question on 151: I bought both ultra-wide and tele and the adaptor.

Ultra wide shows vignetting, useless photos.
With tele you can't extend the lens to full zoom, useless teleconverter

You can't extend the whole zoom with the tele. Also they are bulky, so say goodbye to the advantages of a compact camera vs a dSLR.

You can't use any kind of filters with this adapters.

On the bright side, since both adaptors are 58mm, they fitted quite well on my 18-55 Rebel XT kit lens and my 70-300IS. With the ultra wide the 18-55 works great for landscapes and interior photography. With the tele the 70-300IS is incredible. If you have this lenses, the adaptors will works surprisingly well. With the G7 they just don't work as you would expect, actually they seem like you bought the wrong adaptors that only fitted the 58mm converter. If you just want to use them on the G7 try them first on the store, look for vignetting and if at full tele (with tele adaptor) the camera shuts down with a "Wrong lens error!" then don't buy it.

7:30 pm - Saturday, December 23, 2006

#165 J.P.

The journey continues... So I received a Canon Wide Angle lens & adapter for my G7 for Christmas! Ye haa!!! I was a little worried about it having read OscarNates review, but I was pleased to find that it's actually pretty good. I don't have time to write up all my thoughts just yet, but here's the quick and dirty version...

I have not seen ***any*** vignetting. For clarification, I understand vignetting to mean shadows or darkening around the edge of the picture. What I have found is barrel distortion. Again, for clarification, by barrel distortion, I am referring to straight lines appearing to bend towards the edge of the picture.

This is actually expected behavior (on my part) since the G7 suffers from some barrel distortion natively at full wide angle (focal length of 35mm @ 35mm equivalent). I'm not sure why we would expect there to be less barrel distortion when you slap an adapter lens on that widens it to a focal length of 26mm (again @ 35mm equivalent).

Having said that, mild (which it is) barrel distortion can be fixed in Adobe Photoshop CS2, or Adobe Photoshop Elements with an add on filter available for free (http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Image_Techniques/Barrel_Distortion_Correction_01.htm).

Beyond the mild barrel distortion, image quality ***seems*** fine, and the wider focal length is a plus. I haven't had time to pixel peep yet, but I want to have a quick look to make sure I'm not actually losing image quality.

As a side note, be careful when you're shooting sunsets. If your subject is too bright (e.g., the Sun), you'll see the actual G7 lens reflecting off the inner lens element of the Wide Angle lens adapter making for some interesting though not desirable pictures. Maybe Canon designed it to be this way... built in Canon water marking in your sunset pictures... Nice. But the problem is fixed by slightly adjusting your angle.

I did get lens flaring at times, but I also get flare without out the wide angle adapter so this wasn't surprising.

One thing to keep in mind also, the second you throw the lens adapter on (never mind the wide angle lens), you might as well kiss the built in flash good bye. The adapter blocks the flash from reaching the right hand side of your subject. If you have the wide angle lens on, it only gets worse. I guess it's time to buy a Canon 430 EX flash. I want to try it out first to make sure the balance works out ok. I tried a friend's 550 EX on my G7 and it felt like an elephant balancing on a pin head.

The 58mm adapter is pretty cool by itself. My only gripe is that it's plastic. I didn't experience any problems when I replaced the wide angle adapter with a 58mm UV filter. I had full focal length range from full wide to fully zoomed with no errors or problems. I don't have the tele-adapter lens so I can't verify the problem OscarNates was having, but with a standard filter on the 58mm adapter, it works fine.

The lens adapter acts as a nice protector to the actual lens. I wish I had had this adapter with the 58mm UV filter when I was in India, as I had a problem with dust in the lens and on the sensor by the end of the trip. The adapter also adds a nice feel to the camera, more SLRish, which makes it feel more native to me... LOL. If you don't need the wide angle or the tele, I'd still recommend the adapter ($24.99 w/o the filter) with an added 58mm UV filter if you're ever in any really dusty or wet environments - it's nice to be able to wipe off your lens filter with your shirt without worrying about the actual lens being damaged.

On a coolness factor, the G7 looks nice with the lens adapter and the wide angle lens fitted. It looks even cooler as such when mounted on my Manfrotto tripod. My guess is that it will look that much cooler when I get a 430 EX slapped on top of it.

One last thought, all of this stuff makes for a far less discreet and far less portable camera. But I still managed to hike around the cliffs by the ocean with a tripod, camera bag, wide angle lens (in my hooded sweater's pocket) without too many problems. Size is the cost of flexibility. And the fact that I can strip all that stuff off and fit the camera back into my pocket when I don't want to carry everything else around is still a huge plus for me.

Well, this was suppose to be short... I'll give a little more detail as I play around more with the lens.

- jp
-- Still a Happy G7 owner --

7:03 pm - Wednesday, December 27, 2006

#166 Erin

Hello all--I was hoping I might be able to get some advice from G7 users.

Now that I've had my camera for two weeks, the controls are feeling much more intuitive and I'm seeing the quality of my shots improve. I'm not sure, however, that the camera's image stabilization is working. I've only shot with it handheld, and the images aren't nearly as sharp as I would like.

Does anyone know of any easy test to see if my camera might be broken, or if it's just user error? Would also appreciate tips for getting sharper photos with the G7.

Many thanks in advance.

9:59 pm - Thursday, December 28, 2006

#167 OscarNates

Hey JP I'm glad you are happy with your wide converter and that you have no problem. I uploaded a couple of photos that clearly show the vignetting (shadow in the corners) in flickr.com so you can take a look.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/60492139@N00/

Are you experiencing the same problem? I'm using the WC-DC58A wide converter Conversion lens adapter: LA-DC58H

3:16 am - Saturday, December 30, 2006

#168 OscarNates

JP I don't know if the previos flickr link works, these are the good ones:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/158/337988277_faf5daaefc_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/337988270_19703a406c_b.jpg

The vignetting is more obvious at the left corners. I'm starting to believe that the problem is not with the lens, but with the conversion lens adapter. I'll do some research about it.

Regards!

3:21 am - Saturday, December 30, 2006

#169 AC

What can I say that hasn't already been said? The G7 is a great camera if you can get over the fact that it is uglier than the G6 (which looked good IMHO...G5, G3, G2...no comment), no RAW support, no flipout LCD screen and is priced over entry-level DSLR's like Nikon's D40 and Pentax's K100D. What were the suits at Canon thinking??

For $680.00 CAD (G7) would you pick it up over a DSLR like the Nikon D40? A camera that will give you much more flexibiity (e.g. DSLR accessories galore). Has handholding auto modes for the novice. RAW support. Great noise control into the high ISO speeds (better than current Nikon DSLRs)Enough "advanced" features to allow for near boundless creativity.

And as for the hotshoe on a G7...does any one actually use it? Or on any previous generation G series camera?

Pretty much any flash you use, lets say from the Canon line-up, will dwarf the camera itself. Never mind the fact that most compact camera owners are unlikely to carry around any other accessory. Using an external flash sort of defeats the purpose of buying the "compact" G7 in the first place don't you think?

And no I'm not a Nikon fanboy. I'm using a Sony DSC-H1. Good P&S for the money IMHO. Limitations and all. My next digicam will be a DSLR (Canon 40D 1st choice, Nikon D80 2nd choice, Nikon D200 3rd).

Enough ranting...heh

11:36 pm - Wednesday, January 3, 2007

#170 AC

JP,

It is the adpater. Actually the adapter/filter combo. If there is too much a gap from the front of the lens to the filter you'll get vignetting.

As mentioned I have a Sony DSC-H1 (12x optical zoom, Program AE mode, aperture priority, shutter priority, manual...etc.). Was heading on a trip last November. Thought I would buy a 58mm UV filter to protect the lens.

Little did I know it would cause vignetting. Though only visible, in my case, in low light situations. Raining and dark skies.

So now I shoot without the adapter. And the Hoya 58mm UV filter is sitting in my camera gear drawer. Waiting to be used on a future DSLR lens (e.g. Canon's 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.8).

Live and learn. :)

11:48 pm - Wednesday, January 3, 2007

#171 Tom

AC, Enough with the negative, you are really reaching. Try to get a closer comparison. The Nikon D40 is not even close to being a compact (try putting one in your shirt pocket) and it’s only 6 megapixel. As for the flash attachment - I would only use it at affairs such as weddings and it still a lot less bulk and weight then the D40 and the G7 will take as good, if not better photos and at 10 megs, ones that you can do a lot more with. I don't expect you to agree but yes enough ranting, how about raving. Tom

1:08 am - Thursday, January 4, 2007

#172 AC

Hello Tom,

In short...I'm sorry if I've hit a nerve with a G7 owner BUT...if you're (or any other G7 buyer/owner) ok with the ridiculous $680.00 CAD price...the fact that you could have bought a great DSLR like the new Nikon D40 instead heh...the fact that the G7 no longer has RAW support, flip-out screen...then by all means go for it!! I suppose you could still be happy. :)

All I was getting at was, if I were in the market right now for a P&S...and the G series was on my short-list (actually the G6 was before I picked up my H1) I personally would definitely have wanted those features in the latest G series camera.

Any how, enjoy your G7! To each his own!! And, as for the raving, I'll leave that to you! :)

4:08 am - Thursday, January 4, 2007

#173 OscarNates

AC, regarding vignetting: it's impossible to use the converter without the adapter in the G7, but I guess you're right regading the gap from the fron lens.

I don't think $680 is a ridiculous price to pay, and the G7 is not to be compared to any dSLR. It's like trying to compare an SUV and a mid-size sedan only because both vehicles may cost about the same. They are built for different purposes. I think the D40 is a good cam, also the superb D80 and Canon has the good Rebel XTi. But, and I agree with many other guys, I don't wan't to carry a dSLR all the time and the G7 is a good option.

Regarding your DSC-H1, does it have super-steady shot? What's the resolution? How bulky is it?

5:31 pm - Thursday, January 4, 2007

#174 Tom

I don't know who's paying $680 for the G7, the going price ia more like an average of 500. Do a search. Tom

9:05 pm - Thursday, January 4, 2007

#175 AC

Hello OscarNates,

Regarding the adapter...it's now sitting in my gear drawer. So theoretically I shouldnt' get any more vignetting.

My H1 does have the "super-steady shot", the resolution is only 5.1MP (which is fine in a P&S body) and as for the bulkiness...it's larger than a compact digicams yet smaller than any DSLR. So obvioiusly in my case size wasn't a consideration. :)

Once again. What I was saying was that the G7 (in Canada) is priced above the asking price of some good DSLRs. Priced into the territory of entry-level DSLRs. Why would one spend $680.00 CAD for a P&S when one could invest in a DSLR?

"They are built for different purposes."??? Care to explain that one to me? :) In what way is the G7 built for a "different purpose" than a DSLR?? Is the goal not to shoot the best possible pictures we can using either type of digicam? :)

Any how, I have a feeling we're not going to see eye to eye on this one. Heh! So I'll have to "agree to disagree". But I would love to hear your explaination. :)

9:15 pm - Thursday, January 4, 2007

#176 AC

Tom,

HEHE!! If you care to look over my post you would see that I typed in "$680.00 CAD". "CAD" refers to Canadian$. :)

AC

9:21 pm - Thursday, January 4, 2007

#177 OscarNates

AC, obviously you always want the best possible picture. But if I want to take pictures unconspicuosly in a market, you'll have terrific photos with a $8,000US Canon EOS-1D Mark; the problem is that this superb camera is huge, it makes a terrible noise and -in general- for any "candid picture" situation you'll ruin the mood and ambience with any dSLR. That is a purpose you can't achieve with a dSLR.

If you want to travel light forget a dSLR: you'll carry a bag with the camera body, a Macro lens, a 18-55 lens, a 70-300mm lens, a tripod... Sometimes you really want to get a great picture but without the load. A Point and Shut camera will not allow you to have enough creative control, you'll have a 3x zoom and probably no image stabilization. The G7 is compact and light enought to carry in a jacket pocket.

I think that the G7 is a great companion for a dSLR, in some cases a compact camera with enough power (manual control) may be better than a bulky dSLR. That's what I mean with "different purposes".

The quid here AC is that you may have one goal: shoot the best possible pictures, but you can achieve such goal in many different ways. Using a G7 is one of many ways, it not the only one, but for some purposes this compact camera does a super job.

11:52 pm - Thursday, January 4, 2007

#178 AC

Hello Oscar,

I think what it comes down to is this. For most of us we want to try our best to get the best possible shot in any given situation. Given the choice between using a P&S (e.g. the G7) and a DSLR...I would think the logical choice would clearly be a DSLR. Whether you're trying to be "inconspicous" or not.

However if, as you say, you NEED to "travel light" and there's absolutely no way you could include a DSLR...(e.g. wife won't let you..grin, wink)...personally I don't foresee that ever happening to me...and packing light takes precedence above taking the best possible pics...then SURE! :)

Any how, I think we've spent enough time on this. You have your view and I have mine. And as I've said "to each his own". Enjoy your G7! I'm sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way with my rants. But they are just that...MY rants. Lets move on shall we? :)

Take it easy! Cheers!

4:30 am - Friday, January 5, 2007

#179 andy

hi, I am on the market to get a camera that will do a good close up pictures of gems and diamond jewelery. I do have A95 and access to S2 but the A95 no good at all, too big focus range and S2 too grainy. G7 was recommended to me because of megapixels but I like swivel screen, I am a toss now between G7 and I3. One more thing , no money available to go to D30. If someone has experience wit macrophotography I would really appreciate your help.Andy

9:49 pm - Monday, January 8, 2007

#180 Chuck

Unlike many who have posted (and you're certainly entitled to), I own the G7. What drew me to it was build quality, size (not tiny, but not like my DSLRs), and good features and flexibility. I have heard lots of ranting and raving about swivel screens and the "slow" lens. How many DSLRs have swivel screens? Why is it so hugely important that so many people discount the G7 without using it first? I have a G6 as well and I personally like the G7 much better. Feels better, operation (focusing, buffer, etc) is much faster, and its images at ISO 200 and below are excellent. I never used the swivel screen on my G6 and with IS the loss in lens speed is trivial. I can reach out to 210mm and have tons of control over the camera. Things I DON'T like are the lack of remote (but you can use the self timer) and the inability to use filters and a shade. In a perfect world it would go to 28mm instead of 35 and would have a tad less barrell distortion at the wide end. It's a terrific camera for its intended use. It's not supposed to be a cheap Leica M8 nor a DSLR in a smaller package. It's supposed to be a high quality compact digital with good flexibility and image quality - all that it is. Use it, you'll like it.

6:54 pm - Tuesday, January 9, 2007

#181 Akcelik

I believe the negation of Swivel LCD is directly influenced by Hi-End Digital Rangefinder's ala M8, RD1 etc costing 10x the price!
If they can get away with it, why not Canon at 1/10th of the price?
And larger LCD sounds better than a smaller swivel (if cost is about the same)

G series is a niche camera, please don't dumb it down Canon! People that don't get it or need it can buy the A640.
Keep what was & Start at 28mm. (24 would be super) Or...

Give a Limited Edition G series 2/3 CMOS with "6 Mega Pixels" for extra dynamic range! and charge 4 x times the price (but remember the wider lens) because its a niche camera! Or...

Give a 4/3 form factor (with modest pixels for DR) EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens) line up with some beautiful fast primes and zooms so we don't buy into the Gigantium Tele & Wide converters. Everyone can suit to their own needs and keep it compact, so you don't oblige customer's to buy into DSLR's because this niche wants silence & compact and we will pay good money because a DSLR does not fullfill all need and we already own or don't want a DSLR thanks for your implications.

1:46 pm - Thursday, January 18, 2007

#182 japtraplex

The G7 is a wonderful camera and worthy successor to the G6. All of you silly play-time "photographers" need to stop bitching about the lack of RAW. The quality and features of this camera more than make up for any minor shortcomings.

Thank God Canon got rid of that ridiculous fold out LCD screen. Not only was it flimsy, small and tacky looking, but altogether useless. I applaud Canon for opting for a large, high quality built in LCD!

Get over yourselves...

6:39 am - Friday, January 26, 2007

#183 simon

Well said, after all, a serious photographer wouldn't mind getting down with their knees in the soil, and really feel the shot they want, a lazy photographer wants a silly folding novelty screen so he can keep his nice new trousers clean. How many digital slrs have folding screens to play wth? The G7 is a professional camera, not a lookalike to your 3 year olds plaything.

3:09 pm - Sunday, January 28, 2007

#184 Pierre Demeure

Thanks to all the comments. That shows that opinions are very different following the needs of each one.
I'm looking for a compact for an alternative to my "big" Nikon SLR (D1X) and long lenses (300/2,8) and heavy macro lens (105/2,8 VR).
What I look for is a practical compact I could have in mt pocket when I've an outdoor walk, when I go somewhere without wanting to carry the "big guns", or simply in order to know that if I'm somewhere I didn' think to have something interesting to do in photography, I could have a box which could make a good qualitu picture is the opportunity of the "one life photo" occurs ! (or simply as a kind of notopad).
I hesitate between th G7 and the Leica D-LUX3 which is able to make RAW. The best for we were if the G7 had RAW features... Not specially for the quality, as I really think that nowdays cameras and processors are able to make very good images if used at maxi pix numbers, and superfine (no compression). The reason why I'd like to have Raw feature is for the proog of the ownership. More and more photo competions requires that the photographer could be able to provide the RAW picture in order to avoid "stolen images".
But at the opposte side, a 10MP Raw picture take a 20MB place on the memory card !!! That means that if you work in RAW mode, you'll onmy place 100 picture on a 2GB card... That's expensive... or you have to limit your hunger !
Also, if you work in Raw mode, the required time for recording on the card will be a problem when you take continuous pictures...

Then, I think that I'll purchase the G7 rather than the Leica D-Lux3. And if I need to post-handle a picture, I'll use my Nikon Captur NX which is able to make a NEF (Raw) file from a JPEG one...

12:14 pm - Monday, February 5, 2007

#185 GARY POGODA

Pierre, that is exactly what I would do. My guess is that a G7 JPEG
converted to Raw will look better than an original D-Lux3 Raw. :)

3:44 pm - Monday, February 5, 2007

#186 Khvn

Manufacturer never gives you everything you want in a single product. They'll "hold out" on you. That makes you buy and buy again. That said, I'm "holding out" for the comming G8. I'm betting it'll go down to 28mm and not stuck at 35mm like the G7.

If you like the G7 now. Wait, don't dig into your wallet just yet. Houl out for the comming better G8.

7:40 pm - Tuesday, February 6, 2007

#187 Pierre Demeure

A new G model is issued evey 2 years... And I need of the solution now !!!
When a G8 will come in 2 years, I'll sell my G7 if it is still alive !!!

7:47 pm - Tuesday, February 6, 2007

#188 Jon (Newcastle)

Hello, I've bought a G7 and I'm very happy with it but I'm having a bit of trouble finding a case for it. I've bought one from E-Bay but it's far too big can anyone recommend a nice fitting case for this camera ? Any advice would be much appreciated.
All the best.

9:47 am - Sunday, February 11, 2007

#189 Pierre Demeure

Jon,
You could have a look at crumpler bags. I found one which exactly fits my needs. Rugged, water repellent, it the "Pretty Boy" XXS model.
It looks like just if it were lmade for the G7.
However, it is just the place for the camera itself. Not for accessories (except memory card). If you want to carry all the accessories and loader and cables, you have to look at larger bag.

Pierre

http://www.crumplereurope.com/2.0/site.html

10:51 am - Sunday, February 11, 2007

#190 Trish

Here's a thought guys- what would be the point of introducing a new camera with exactly the same features as a previous model? Furthermore, I can hardly believe all this moaning about a flip-screen. Get over it!

The G7 is a great camera and isn't all that expensive if you bother to shop around. After only a few key strokes, I found it for $325 & free shipping from a reputable dealer.
LOVE IT!

4:40 am - Thursday, March 1, 2007

#191 Mathvida

Japtraplex said "Thank God Canon got rid of that ridiculous fold out LCD screen. Not only was it flimsy, small and tacky looking, but altogether useless." But have you tried to use the W/A lens with the totally useless Viewfinder?! Further, as a Pro, I find that I use my "flimsy" LCD screen for 95% of my pictures (with that camera).

Far from being "lazy", when I have to "put my knees in the soil", as Simon insinuates, I find that looking down (or up) at the screen in all sorts of situations (that my EOS) can't go is preferable for viewing, stability and comfort... remember twin lens reflex anyone?

And finally, Trish, I know why you're not moaning: you would never have found your belovd G7 being given away at $325 if Canon hadn't shot themselves in the pocket with their mistaken decision to abandon that very flip-screen that most users see as essential!

4:38 pm - Thursday, March 1, 2007

#192 CHARLES

WHERE CAN I GET A G7 FOR $325? FOR THAT KIND OF MONEY HOW COULD YOU GO WRONG.

7:11 am - Thursday, March 8, 2007

#193 Phil

Jon,

Re your post 188 - I too have just bought a G7 along with a Lowepro Rezo 50 case. The G7 is a snug fit and the case also accommodates a spare battery plus a few SD cards in a small pouch. JUST THE JOB!

3:55 pm - Sunday, March 11, 2007

#194 rashid

i would like to know it there is a case for under water use >>>>> am living in UAE dubai how can i bay the case from my contrey >>> if her any agnet that i can deal with him >>> thank you

10:19 am - Tuesday, March 20, 2007

#195 Mojo

I can live without a lot of the things most are complaining about but I've gotta have my RAW files. Come on, Canon! Its not added cost hardware, its software you've already written. I'd have this camera already if it weren't for this shortfall. My question to everyone else... what is the possibility of a firmware upgrade to enable RAW file recording?

9:38 am - Wednesday, March 21, 2007

#196 v6

OBVIOUSLY (if you haven't realized it yet) the lack of RAW format support if because of their's business strategy.

3:11 pm - Monday, April 2, 2007

#197 sw

Did anybody find dusts inside the lens ? How did you tackle the condition ?

3:08 pm - Monday, April 23, 2007

#198 Zoltan

Dusts indide the lens is not natural, so I suggest you to get that model back to the service. Anyway G7 seems very popular. I've tried it and is really good for "instant" shooting. I have find a place with many informations about this model: Canon G7

11:27 am - Saturday, May 5, 2007

#199 marika

WELL, I had to share this with you since I researched for weeks on the camera and then the PERFECT case and found an exact copy to the canon SC-DC50 case as shown on http://www.w4rmk.com/canon/G7/shootout.asp, see the pics, it's great but can only find it in AUS, and found a copy or may be legit, but sure looks great for a case at half the price, can't go wrong.

Buy it on ebay for 50$ shipping included through... http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=017&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&viewitem;=&item=270117303081&rd=1&rd=1

Hope this helps you, sure helped me, way better then the original canon box case, which looks horrible, and unpractical!

Marika

3:13 am - Sunday, May 6, 2007

#200 G

well, i'm glad theres been some useful input into this rather then people just bitching about how it could be better and why it doesnt have this and that and comparing it to a DSLR's....
I'm gonna get one soon, and if its as good as i think it will be, given that i'm looking for a functional, high quality, reliable, durable, well featured alternative to my old & bulky SLR. From the proper and informative replies i've seen, it seems that it'll so everything i want.

Also a note, i'm happy to find a higher view point, as am i happy to get my head down on the floor if thats where the perfect photo can be found. I dont need RAW, since nothing i do print is ever larger then A4 and the very most.

I get the feeling alot of idealist readers of this miss the point of a high feature compact camera, which this was intended to be. If people want more spec, go DSLR - thats where high end imagery lives - where as if your looking for the maximum from a camera that you wont get mugged for (lugging round one or two kit bags and a large and heavy camera)then this is a more versatile option for the more discrete photographer.

Anyway, i hope to pick mine up in the USA in june when i go on my hols. I have bought a spare battery and a car charger to save on charging times etc. I love the crumpler case, and have ordered one for £18.

The way i see the camera is its a Audi A2 - small and high end/quality. People should stop comapreing it to Audi A8's or trying to say it should have A8 features, because then it wouldnt be a A2 anymore would it.....

Likewise, as its anew model ... didnt plenty of people go "Iwish it had this or that...." when the G6 arrived, or any of its predecessors. thankyou JP for a real report on the camera.

My final words are; if you dont like the camera ... dont buy it, but also dont spam a decent topic with you hates about it.

Rant over.

5:28 pm - Thursday, May 17, 2007