Panasonic DMC-LX1 Announced

July 20, 2005 | Mark Goldstein | Digital Compact Cameras | 796 Comments |

Panasonic DMC-LX1Panasonic DMC-LX1 is announced today. The Panasonic DMC-LX1 is an 8.4 megapixel digital camera with a 4x Leica optical zoom lens equivalent to 28-112mm, optical image stabilizer and a 2.5 inch LCD screen. The DMC-LX1 is the world’s first digicam with a wide angle lens and 16:9 aspect CCD. The aspect ratio can be easily selected between 16:9 or 3:2 in addition to the conventional 4:3 by using a switch on the lens barrel. The Panasonic DMC-LX1 can also record moving images at 848 x 480 16:9@Wide VGA at 30 fps. The Panasonic DMC-LX1 will be available in the UK in August in silver priced £449.99.

Panasonic Europe Press Release

Panasonic is launching a new LUMIX 16:9 wide LX series with the introduction of the DMC-LX1, 8.4-Megapixel 4x optical zoom (equivalent to 28 mm to 112 mm on a 35mm film camera) full manual compact camera. This creative compact incorporates a 8.4-Megapixel CCD and a high resolution 2.5-inch LCD in its undersized body. The aspect ratio is easily selectable between 16:9 wide, 3:2 and conventional 4:3 with a switch located on the lens barrel to shoot in the framing aspect that best suits the subjectsf composition or imagefs purpose of use.

The lens unit is comprised of 4x optical zoom LEICA DC VARIO-ELMARIT Lens and renders superb picture quality. Like other LUMIX cameras, what distinguishes the DMC-LX1 from the rest is MEGA O.I.S. (Optical Image Stabilizer), a key feature Panasonic considers should be standard in all digital still cameras. Unintentional handshake, the major cause of digital camera misshooting, is controlled by MEGA O.I.S. to allow every user to take clear, beautiful images even indoors or at nighttime. The newly incorporated Extra Optical Zoom extends the zoom ratio by using the center part of the high resolution CCD to achieve 5x for 5.5-Megapixel 16:9 image recording with minimal deterioration.

Extensive manual controls including manual focus and manual exposure can be smoothly operated with a joystick incorporated along with an omni directional cursor. Just pressing and holding the joystick shortcuts to a setting menu containing the frequently used white balance adjustment, ISO setting, image size setting and compression format.

Taking advantage of these outstanding features, the LX1 incorporates the high speed, high quality image processing LSI, the Venus Engine II. It boasts quick responsiveness that realizes the best-in-class level release time lag of 0.01 sec. For the AF, five AF modes are available; 9-point, 3-point high speed, 1-point high speed, 1-point normal speed and spot. The 1-point high speed AF boasts predominantly fast AF for stress-free focusing.

In addition, the DMC-LX1 is the first digital still camera that can record moving images at 848 x 480 16:9@Wide VGA, as smooth as 30 fps.
With a volley of features providing both enhanced image quality and responsiveness, the DMC-LX1 is an advanced compact offering elaborate manual controllability while being accommodating to entry-level users through a variety of scene modes and auto setting functions. Panasonic dares to introduce this artistic instrument suited to users at all levels who enjoy creative shooting.

1. 8.4-Megapixel 16:9 aspect CCD and 28mm wide 4x optical zoom LEICA DC Lens
The DMC-LX1 features the 8.4-Megapixel Industryfs first* 16:9 aspect CCD and 4x optical zoom 28mm wide angle** (equivalent to 28 mm to 112 mm on a 35 mm film camera) LEICA DC VARIO-ELMARIT lens. Incorporating three aspherical lenses provides high optical performance while preserving the compactness of the unit. The aspect ratio can be easily selected between 16:9 or 3:2 in addition to the conventional 4:3 with a switch on the lens barrel on a shot-by-shot-basis to best suit the composition of the image. Even after shooting, the 16:9 ratio can be converted to 3:2 or 4:3 with the camera according to your purpose of use.

The extra optical zoom, made possible by using the center part of 8.4-megapixel high resolution CCD, further extends the zoom ratio to 5x for 5.5-Megapixel image recording in 16:9 aspect with minimal deterioration.

* As a CCD of digital still camera, as of July 7, 2005.
** In 16:9 aspect ratio.

2. Image stabilizing technology MEGA O.I.S.(Optical Image Stabilizer) and high speed high quality image processing LSI Venus Engine II
MEGA O.I.S.(Optical Image Stabilizer), that Panasonic thinks it indispensable for all digital cameras, especially for compact models that lacks stability, is subsumed under LUMIX all line-up released in this year. Every slight hand-shake movement is detected accurately with the sampling frequency at 4,000 times per second and will be compensated to render clear, sharp images.

MEGA O.I.S. is equipped with 2 selectable modes. In gMode 1h, the O.I.S. lens continuously compensates for vibration and in gMode 2h, the O.I.S. lens suppresses hand-shake only at the moment the shutter button is pressed. In this mode, the lens can move in all directions at the moment to maximize its effect, and higher-resolution image can be taken by capturing the image as close as to the center of the lens. In consequence, since MEGA O.I.S. enables a beautiful picture shot without blurring at slower shutter speeds of more than three steps compared to the conventional models without O.I.S., you can enjoy shooting clear and beautiful pictures easily even in the situations using slow shutter speeds, like indoor shots for portraits and nighttime scenery for illuminated object, as well as in shootings using zoom or macro mode.
For the brain of the camera, high-speed high-quality image processing LSI Venus Engine II is incorporated to render clear images in detail, compensating for the color aberration at the edges subject to occur. It also compensates for vignetting and generates bright image in every detail. This engine boasts its high performance resulting in the industry leading level in class release time lag of 0.01 sec for achieving more stress-free operation.

*Not including the time for AF.

3. Joystick-operated intuitive manual control
The DMC-LX1 offers manual focus and manual exposure, and both are adjustable with a joystick independent of an omni directional cursor. A switch on the side of the lens barrel lets you quickly change the focus mode between MF, AF or Macro AF. When you focus in the Manual Focus mode, not only the focus distance but also the DOF (depth of field) according to the zoom range and aperture is displayed. An MF assist function enlarges the center of the image to make focusing easier. Both features contribute to easy and comfortable manual focus.

A joystick was incorporated to facilitate operational ease and thereby get the best technical advantage of the multitude of functions offered by the camera. You can quickly shortcut to frequently used variables containing white balance adjustment, ISO setting, image size setting and compression format just by pressing and holding down the joystick, even while monitoring a subject on the LCD.

Shutter speed extends up to 60 sec at slowest in Manual Exposure mode and adjustable from 1/2000 to 60 sec for wider ranging shooting opportunities. Noise reduction is available for images taken at slow shutter speed.

The AF/AE lock button supports free framing while keeping the focus locked or fixes the same exposure setting regardless of the color of a subject for taking multiple shots.

Panasonic DMC-LX14. Crystal-clear, large 2.5h LCD monitor
The 2.5h large LCD is excellent not only in size but also in the resolution, which is as high as 207 k pixels. The advantage is apparent when you check the focus during or after shooting, or when you display images even in tiny thumbnail size, across which you can move an omni-directional cursor to select. They can be played back in 9, 16 and 25 on multi-split screen in addition to the normal 1 frame playback thanks to the large high resolution LCD. This helps you to search for the image you want out of a number stored on the SD Memory Card, even if the images are in bulk. Furthermore, you can virtually checkmark your favorite images and keep them selected apart from the others to make a special slideshow with them only, or make concurrent deletion of the non-checkmarked ones if you do not need them anymore. Thanks to this feature, the LX1 can serve not just as a tool of shooting images but also as a digital album, to enjoy the seeing and showing of your favorite pictures.
To offer a clear view even in sunny outdoor conditions, the Power LCD function increases brightness by 140% just by pressing an independent button.

5. Excellent responsiveness, smart control and quick AF
The DMC-LX1 incorporates high performance image processing LSI the Venus Engine II in both speed and image quality. Thanks to the multi-task image processing, response has also been accelerated, resulting in the best-in-class level release time lag of 0.01 sec achieving more stress-free operation. For the burst shooting mode, it also boasts high consecutive shooting performance, providing shooting at 3 frames/second at 8.4-Megapixel full resolution. This function can be@instantly activated with the independent button*. Unlimited Consecutive Shooting function** allows limit-free consecutive shooting up to the capacity of the SD memory card.

An AF method can be selected according to the shooting situation: 9-point, 3-point high-speed, 1-point high-speed, 1-point normal-speed and Spot. The 1 point high-speed AF, initially incorporated in the high zoom line DMC-FZ5, dramatically reduces the AF time to realize stress-free operation. Although screen-freeze in high-speed AF is now minimized, if you take the picture of subject with fast movement, you can select 1 point normal-speed AF which does not have any screen-freeze while focusing.

* The button also performs as gDELETEh in playback mode.
** The speed of the unlimited consecutive shooting varies depending on the SD Memory Card.

6. Industryfs first 16:9 aspect Wide VGA moving image recording*
In addition to the conventional 4:3 VGA moving image recording, the LX1 can record moving images even in the 848 x 480 16:9 Wide VGA format at 30 fps, making the most of the industryfs first 16:9 CCD. Shooting is one thing but viewing is another, and you will be suitably impressed by the 16:9 moving image when it is displayed on a wide screen TV.

* As a digital still camera, as of July 7, 2005.

7. Easier and more comfortable operationality
Along with the joy stick and omni-directional cursor, a dial-operated mode shift also improves the camerafs controllability. The mode dial allows quick, direct switching between various shooting modes, moving picture mode and playback mode. In addition to the conventional ProgramAE, the LX1 is equipped with Auto mode, which caters for the entry level users. A total of 14 scene modes including Baby, Soft Skin, Food, Starry Sky and Candle helps you to take beautiful images easily in wide-ranging situations. Still it is easy to select the one out of them thanks to the Scene Mode Help Screen that shows the description of each mode and the knack for shooting of each scene and helps users to take beautiful image easily.

The LUMIX DMC-LX1 is like no other compact camera, enabling both high-end amateurs and entry-level users to explore the creativeness that surely enhances the joy of shooting.



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#701 Red Glasses

It would have been nice though, if it would have 2 rings on either side, so you could hang it on a small, subtle leather Leica M6 string and hang it over your shoulder....

4:42 pm - Monday, November 28, 2005

#702 GARY POGODA

I agree, but why stop there.

It would have been nice if the LX1 lens was fully retracting. Then you
could put the camera in your pocket, and you would not have to deal
with an external lens cap. It would be nice if Panasonic offered a UV
filter for the LX1 that snapped on in place of the lens cap.

Maybe you should order a few extra lens caps now, before there is a
run on them. :)

7:46 pm - Monday, November 28, 2005

#703 zymonk

Overall I’m fairly happy with this camera and glad I bought it. It’s easier to talk about what I think could be better and hope that Panasonic listens and improves next years model. I just might flog this one on eBay and buy it if they do.
So here is what I’d like to see:
1. Threads in front of that nice Leica lens. Filters are useful things and it would make the "what to do with lens cap" delema moot.
2. I don’t know why movie mode doesn't work in 3:2 format. It should.
3. WiFi & higher speed USB connectivity.
4. I would like an even wider lens.
5. It would be nice to program either scene mode 1 or 2 on the mode dial with other options like B&W, White Balance, Quality, etc. so as not to wade through the menu.
6. Decent RAW software.
7. Lower noise, although this bothers me less than 1, 2 & 4.
In addition to the Tenba case (I prefer the PS-4 to the PS-3) I also bought an IoGear pocket USB/SD card drive. This thing is so small and transfers pics faster than the included cable. It costs $12 and lets you do lots of other things with those SD cards, highly recommended.

7:53 pm - Monday, November 28, 2005

#704 AA

These 2:

"1. Threads in front of that nice Leica lens. Filters are useful things and it would make the "what to do with lens cap" delema moot."
"4. I would like an even wider lens."

= Vignetting,

my friend.

You'll need a very thin, low-profile filter to even try to frame out the edge of the filter. I can guarantee that you'll have vignetting from the filter edge.

"2.I don’t know why movie mode doesn't work in 3:2 format. It should."
Why? We're about to switch to 16x9 HDTV from 4x3 SDTV - why would you want it in 3x2? I don't understand. Where would you show this 3x2 movie without some sort of weird cropping edges?


...................... hmmmmm......................


Oh I get it now - I guess you like having dark edges to your images, eh?
Hehehe........

1:27 am - Tuesday, November 29, 2005

#705 GARY POGODA

On second thought, I do not think my combination UV filter / lens cap
accessory item will work, since the lens cap attaches to the fixed part
of the lens housing, and not to the protruding lens barrel part. So the
lens would not be able to extend with such a filter attached.

Oops. Back to the drawing board. :)

10:17 pm - Wednesday, November 30, 2005

#706 zymonk

AA,
I don't know where you get your information but you are wrong. Plenty of lenses wider than 28mm take filters just fine without vingetting. The 21 on my Leica M6 does.

2. I don't know about you but my (and most peoples) laptop and even TV for that matter is not 16:9. 3:2 fits better on the majority of screens that are already out there. It would not have been much trouble or expense for Panasonic to have given the camera the ability. Hell I would prefer 3:2 to 4:3. But given the choice I always prefer to eat the cake and not just have it.

8:36 pm - Thursday, December 1, 2005

#707 Li

zymonk, you're right about TVs being 3:2, but widescreen TVs are the future. You won't find any 3:2 lcd or plasma TV. Most of the laptops are also turning to widescreen. So if you're shooting for the future, better to stick to the 16x9 format. You may keep your 3:2 laptop for another couple of years but your clips will be good for decades.

10:15 am - Friday, December 2, 2005

#708 AA

Zymonk,

I know you what you're saying, but

Leica M6 is a 35mm FILM camera. I wasn't talking about vignetting on a 35mm FILM camera-lens-film plane.

DMC-LX1 is a 1/1.65" DIGITAL SENSOR camera with what is considered a 28mm-114mm equivalent lens. Equivalent, only in that this camera has a 16x9 sensor, at the very small sensor size.
Granted, if one were to squeeze the aspect ratio to 3:2, I do not expect there would be vignetting. But at the 16x9 on THIS particular ZOOM lens........ ZOOM lens that is already protrudes from the body of the camera quite a bit.

You're talking about a 21mm PRIME lens, on your M6, that is relatively flat because it doesn't have all the zoom mechanism and aspherical lenses in it, right? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Let's look forward to the future, as this LX1 is the first step towards that.

11:41 pm - Friday, December 2, 2005

#709 GARY POGODA

Excellent analysis, AA.

8:46 pm - Saturday, December 3, 2005

#710 nick in japan

The sensor size of the LX-1 is smaller than 2/3, but just barely! There are LOTTSA cameras with the even smaller 1/8 and 1/2.5 sensors. Packing 8.4 million pixels into a 1/1.65 may ratio itself about the same as 7 million into a 1/1.8, or 6 million into a 1/2.5..... We got alot of nice looking images out there from cameras that fall into these catagories. A camera with a 5 mb sensor will probably produce a better image on a 2/3 sensor than on a 1/1.8 sensor. Alot of the vignetting results from the angle of the lens housing to the glass protusion of the set-up. The design of the assembly is the consideration of filter thickness, along with the angle of view of the lens elements, IMHO.

1:55 am - Sunday, December 4, 2005

#711 GARY POGODA

Since the 1/1.65" is a 16:9 number, and the 2/3", 1/1.8", and 1/2.5"
are 4:3 numbers, your pixel comparison is a little off, and the LX1 is
actually better than you represented.

Think of the LX1 as a 1/1.8" CCD with a few extra columns of pixels
added to each side. In 4:3 mode, the LX1 uses 6 megapixels, so its
pixel size is equivalent to a 6 megapixel 1/1.8" CCD, or if you do the
math, a 4 megapixel 1/2.5" CCD.

With that pixel size, the LX1 should have better noise characteristics
than many of the other cameras out there. Why it doesn't remains a
mystery to me.

7:15 pm - Sunday, December 4, 2005

#712 nick in japan

Noise comes from more than pixel count, thanks for getting my "about" and "may be" straightened out.
Who knows what Panasonic did in designing this break-through sensor, I still think it's awesome! I think Leica saw something there too, they took a big chance with their re-packaging.
Semper Fi!

10:11 pm - Sunday, December 4, 2005

#713 zymonk

AA,
If the designers of the LX1 wanted the camera or one with a slightly wider lens to accept filters it would. It is not beyond beyond the scope of engineering. Case in point is the Nikon 8400 which has the equivalent of a 24mm lens. I suspect the LX1 doesn’t have a threaded lens because either they did not think of it or more likely, putting a filter on the thing seemed unnecessary and would not be a feature that consumers would clamor for.

8:30 pm - Monday, December 5, 2005

#714 AA

Why all the smarts? Hmmmm? Why all the certainty? Where do you get that?

Beyond beyond?

You thunk? Really? Wow!

The 8400 had a 24mm lens? Wow! Really? But it also has a 4x3 sensor, does it not? OK, then, well, that solves your problem, doesn't it? Narrow the picture, so you can shove a filter on it without vignetting! (And I wonder what the lens would be like with a 16x9 Sensor behind it!) Wow what a concept! I thought that is exactly what we were saying (Gary and I) when we said the the 28mm @ 16x9 is actually wider than a 28mm @ 4x3 aspect, in its SCOPE! Hmmmmmm............

Still it's probably due to the LONG END of the zoom lens, and the sum total of the thickness of the actual lens mechanism with all the lenses in it to make it a zoom lens that creates a certain build and thickness that would not make it so friendly to have a thread on the front for such a small sensor? Perhaps. Would've been nice to have had a much longer lens too, but hey, it's got a 16x9 sensor. It's a small sensor, a little noisy, but hey, it's 16x9.

Oh by the way, I used to own the Nikon 4500, which also was able to take filters, but that lens only went to 38mm equivalent, but because of the way the thread sat so forward of the lens, a regular filter did cause vignetting too....... annoyed the hell out of me!
It was also able to take those funky large wide-angle adapters, you know, as did the 8400,
http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=77&productNr=25646
but I think that would also cause it have vignetting too, if you tried to put a filter on it.........

They didn't think of it? You thunk? Unnecessary? You thunk? After all the talk on this 700-long thread where we started by talking about how nice it would be if the LX1 would have a thread to shove a filter on the front of the lens, but we concluded that it probably won't, and then finally a few of us actually got one in our hands to see how the ZOOM lens is set up.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make to make yourself sound so clever!

I think the 16x9 @ 28mm is a nice wide "feel" - and yeah a thread would have been nice, but ya know, it's 1st Gen of this kind of camera, so, oh well, as long as ya can live with controlling the noise, heck, it's a good start.

2:49 am - Tuesday, December 6, 2005

#715 zymonk

Hey think what you want. This debate and your attitude has gotten too pointless and irritating for me to waste any more time here. Doesn’t make for the best reading either.

If you don’t understand the point I was making or take umbrage to my opinion of the camera it’s your problem, but maybe you should ask yourself why you have this problem and are looking for an argument instead of snidely accusing me of “sounding so clever”. If you are still in your late teens, early twenties it's understandable. Your posts do kind of read that way.

9:21 pm - Tuesday, December 6, 2005

#716 GARY POGODA

Zymonk, I do not know AA any better than you, but one thing I've
learned is not to take his comments personally. This is just his style,
and one that has been toned down significantly since his Amazingly
Amazed days.

You both made good points in your comments, and that is the most
important thing. Besides, I truly believe a lot of this can be chalked
up to the fact that this is the Christmas Season, the most frustrating
time of the year, the time when most suicides are committed ... but
then I digress.

The other thing you have to remember is his drinking problem. :)

10:04 pm - Tuesday, December 6, 2005

#717 nick in japan

Gary, your defense, support and baiting of your alter-ego, or should I say "egos" is unbecoming and beneath you! Being a genius of sorts, doesnt balance the dangerous areas you enter by playing with mental illness. Best that you leave it all alone! I warned the general public to the fate you will endure by entering this site, still the abuse continues and you continue to placate it. Tell you friend Mark that the report on the LX-1 was a waste of time, most readers will get to the specs and see that Mark has indeed kept the thickness of this little beauty alive, AS A LIE! It IS ALMOST 2" ThICK, NOT 1"! Start out with incorrect data and what happens to all that is said after that??? HUH? Birds of a feather flock together! This is the best Christmas present I could send, it's called "Tough Love"
Semper Fi

12:42 am - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#718 GARY POGODA

Other than profanity (for which nobody cares), I have not seen any of
what you are calling abuse. I also did not quite understand your point
about the erroneous thickness of the camera since that was one of the
first things Mark pointed out in the "Ease of Use" section of his review.

Very glad to hear that you are still enjoying the LX1, and getting great
pictures. Maybe you will be kind enough to share them with us one of
these days.

My "Christmas" present would be to give everyone a little thicker skin
(although I'm sure, as an ex-Marine, you hardly require it). :)

1:38 am - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#719 nick in japan

Not recognizing "abuse' may be you biggest mis-givings! Posting a 5 Star rating along with the thickness lie is a bait for the unsuspecting troops that dont go deeper into a review to make up their minds before they buy something, lottsa those folks out there. Why is the lie perpetuated? Was a hands-on review REALLY done? Were the reports just exerpts from the blog?
I have shared my daily use of this little beauty with those who are not lazy, and take the time to interact on a personal basis, so far I've had quite a few takers, and have established some very polite and wonderful interactions!
My thin skin is something that I know is my misgiving, seems like I like people too much to believe that there are alot of folks that enjoy attacking people, and,I do, take it personally when demeaning talk is directed at myself or others, even you!
If you honorably served as a Marine, you are considered a "Former Marine"
I would send this to you personally, or via the Web-Master, I'm not sure if the mails I routed via Mark ever got to you, as you never bothered to reply. This thread has turned into a forum for abnormal behavior and serves no use. Lets all start something , based on facts, on the new LX-1blog, maybe, just maybe.....

2:46 am - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#720 AA

Zymonk -

tsk tsk tsk...... is that all you've got? I was hoping for an argument to go on and on here to make this the longest comment blog on the planet, but you gave up so easily!

And do you have a complex about "sounding" so clever? I guess you're not that intelligent, like the rest of us here, Nick exempted....... hwa hwa hwa.....!

Gary, about the cocktails...... at least I'm not in England, where the pubs are now open 24 hours...... they used to close at 11PM you know........ ask Mr Goldstein, he can tell you all about it....! hic.....! excu..... hic!...... me........!

6:17 am - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#721 zymonk

I'm afraid you will have to argue with someone else.
Your adolecent drivel and derision is best ignored and not incouraged.

4:39 pm - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#722 zymonk

The same goes for my poor spelling.

8:16 pm - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#723 GARY POGODA

The slogan for the hit TV show, Monk (no relation to our Zymonk), is
"Characters Welcome" which I think very much applies here.

Nick, if you are going to lodge complaints about the LX1 review, you
should get your facts straight. Mark only gave the LX1 a 4 (out of 5)
star rating (see Conclusion/Links section), and pointed out the actual
thickness of the LX1 (see Ease of Use section) as 45 mm (I presume
his measurement is without any lens cap attached, which would have
added another few millimeters).

Just so there is no misunderstanding, as there was with my Veterans'
Day wishes to you (see my comment #680), there was nothing meant
by my use of the term ex-Marine vs. Former Marine, the distinction of
which I was previously unaware. I mention this now because there is
another important holiday coming up with the initials VD, and I wanted
you to be prepared. :)

On a sad note, tomorrow (December 8) is the 25th anniversary of the
death of ex-Beatle, John Lennon. :-(

8:47 pm - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#724 nick in japan

I apologize for my 4 Star blunder, I was used to an "empty star" on the end, indicating that it was indeed less than perfect, MY BUST, Sorry 'bout that. If you had read my comment, I was impressed with the initial size of the camera as being falsely indicated, and tried to indicate that the "introduction " to the article was important because alot of folks only read the begining! Why was the lie perpetuated? Especially when it has been commented on, over and over, by LOTTSA folks? Very strange to me..... When you bait your idol into an obvious reply, your excuses arn't valid, what does your death of another druggie have to do with anything. As I mentioned before , you shouldn't go there, we enjoy your genius in the camera spectrum, only. If you want to be sad about memories, how about the 1177 souls still in the USS Arizona, or Iris Chang, a REAL HERO!

10:56 pm - Wednesday, December 7, 2005

#725 GARY POGODA

That's the first time I've heard John Lennon's murder referred to as
the death of another druggie.

9:32 am - Thursday, December 8, 2005

#726 Li

For anybody interested in night photography - the 30 sec sample picture included in the review is not a good example. Best results are got using a 4-8 second exposure. Exposures beyond that actually degrades the picture. The dark sky turns into a noisy grey colour - as in the sample. Wish the reviewer tried more variations before posting that picture.

12:40 pm - Thursday, December 8, 2005

#727 nick in japan

Great point Li! Maybe this info should be directed to the NEW BLOG, it is alot nicer over there!

1:11 pm - Thursday, December 8, 2005

#728 AA

Yes yes yes......

looks like this will stay as the most talked about camera on this site for a while..... since the Ricoh Caplio R3 turned out to be worse than the LX1! I think people will be tired of talking about that piece of crap.......

Of course, this blog will be eclipsed by the next great thing - whenever that will be.......

until then, Gentlemen and Ladies (that would be you, Nick) - it's been a pleasure.

2:57 am - Wednesday, December 14, 2005

#729 nick in japan

Merry Christmas all, and to all a good-night!
Semper Fi!

3:26 am - Wednesday, December 14, 2005

#730 darrick

Nick, if you're still out there, a question for you about LX1 (and anyone else who's used one)....Firstly, I just received mine yesterday and, wow, what a beautiful camera. Its physical design/appearance is unparalleled. It is a joy to see and hold in my hands. Nothing I've seen out there comes close to comparing. Also, I was surprised at how small it is. However, I'm concerned about the oft-discussed 'noise' issues. In low light on a black subject, for instance, there is a good deal of it (the lcd fairly goes wild with it). What is your take, again, on this camera's noise? How much of a problem has it been? Also, I'd like feedback on performance of OIS. It certainly doesn't appear to work any miracles. What is your experience in this regard?

7:13 pm - Monday, January 2, 2006

#731 AA

You have to think on more practical terms:

Are you a Pro?
Do you print LARGE prints at full resolution all the time? Or do you take some photos as a hobby and seldom print anything above 13x19 inches at home (if you have a printer of that size at home)?

The noise is there, and it's only a problem if you were to print anything big enough to show the photos at true full scale.

The thing is, Panasonic knows that most amateurs are not going to spend the money to print 8 Megapixels photos at full resolution, so they figure it's not really a problem unless someone goes around staring at these photos 100% on their screen or scrutinizes the prints on the wall closely. In either case, your face would be so close to the photos that you won't be appreciating the whole frame anyways, so they figure it won't matter.
Most consumers would have to buy a printer that can print on papers wider than 18" and longer than 32" (which most people will not do, or will not be able to do, it's just not practical), or take the full resolution to a print-shop and spend exhorbitant amounts of money to have a full resolution print (which most people will not do, unless they have 1 or 2 particular photos they would really like to hang on the wall).

It's a pretty tiny consumer camera with some interesting functions, one of them being that it can shoot 16x9 frames - so you won't have to crop 4x3 or 3x2 to make them look like 16x9.

I've been shooting with it for a month now and I hardly ever shoot above the 5 Megapixel setting.
I've also processed the Raw files at 8 MP and the noise is still there - it's really not that bad, if you know how to process Raw.
But once again, as I mentioned, even I have not printed anything above 13x19 inches so far! For me to go out of my way to print those large prints, the photo had better be absolutely spectacular! Cos it does cost a lot of money on ink and paper, whether at home or professionally done.

So 99% of the time, most people would re-size for posting on the web or re-size enough to print 8x10s - and in those cases the noise is hardly noticeable.
The camera does capture excellent color, and the NR is actually quite helpful (you have to play with the 2 settings to suit your needs and habits). But don't expect to be able to shoot in really dark conditions without a tripod, it is NOT an SLR, the lens is TINY in comparison to SLRs, so use a tripod if you're going to shoot darkly lit scenes or at night.
And if you don't at least print on 8x10 paper ALL of the photos taken at 16x9 with this camera, it defeats the purpose of having this camera that can shoot at 16x9! After all, what's the point of looking at 16x9 frame on 4x6 paper? But once you do start to print 8x10 sizes all the time, you'll see how quickly your ink runs out.

So enjoy it, don't worry about the noise, you're probably not going to be processing 8MP Raw all the time anyways!

10:35 pm - Monday, January 2, 2006

#732 AA

Excuse me -

I meant to say OIS, instead of NR.

OIS does work, and it does give you may be an extra stop to work with in dark conditions, not much more - I can't give a more scientific figure, sorry, I don't have all the equipment.

Noise in this case is color noise, and if you know how to use NR reduction software, you can clean it up fairly well -
but like I said, you won't notice it much, if you don't go around staring at the prints so close or zoom in to 100% on your screen all the time!

10:44 pm - Monday, January 2, 2006

#733 nick in japan

#730... Congrats!! I agree with Most of AA's comments, but her opinions differ in reguards to a couple things. Firstly, remember that everything about cameras is subjective, and we all have our own likes/ dislikes that are neither right, nor wrong!
Noise is real, a fact of life, unless you have a CMOS sensor. Like pain, it is real, MISERY is a choice! I find Photoshop does a good job in getting rid of alot of the noise. Try having lottsa light, noise likes dark areas.
I feel there is a measurable 3 stop advantage to the IS in the LX-1, I shoot only at ASA 80, IS#1. Mathematically that equates to shooting at ASA 640.
I have all my Picture Adjustments on the Highest setting.
Alot of print shops have the APS "High Vision" print capability, nearly 16x9, it works great, they charge the same price as a 4x6 here in Japan. You should be able to find a shop that does it.
I did some comparison shots with my Canon IX-E and Tokina 12-24 on ASA 400 print film, I'm impressed with how the LX-1 did.
The LX-1 continues to Amaze me with it's images, I love it still, an important part of my life, I am never without it!
Semper Fi !

1:11 am - Tuesday, January 3, 2006

#734 darrick

Some follow-up....AA, you mentioned shooting mostly in 5 megapixel. I take this to mean EZ 16:9 picture size. Is it really an overkill to shoot in the eight mp format? Any advantages to it? What are you losing by shooting in 5 megs (as opposed to 8)? Couldn't you use the extra pixels someday at some point, maybe to display on high resolution wide screen tv? Also, what's your take on the added 1x optical zoom in EZ mode?....Nick, please explain why you put picture adjustments at highest settings. All of them? Even noise reduction? What are the pros and cons of this approach? Also, gentlemen, what suggestions do you have for editing software, brands and versions (for our camera, of course)?

7:41 am - Tuesday, January 3, 2006

#735 nick in japan

darrick...I'll leave the editing replies for others, I use Photoshop CS2 for my tweaking, there are alot of programs that are available, like cameras, it's all subjective. I shoot exclusively JPEG, it suits me fine for what I do, which is non professional. As far as the settings, I like the highest settings for what they produce, others , I'm sure, prefer less vivid, less sharp, less colorful and more noise in their shots!
Semper Fi!

7:58 am - Tuesday, January 3, 2006

#736 AA

Alright here are some answers:

"AA, you mentioned shooting mostly in 5 megapixel. I take this to mean EZ 16:9 picture size."
-- I set it to the 5 MP in the menus and shoot with that. I would ignore the "EZ" bit as it means nothing, it's misleading actually, to make people think that they're getting "extra zoom" when they're really not, it's just a cropped area.

"Is it really an overkill to shoot in the eight mp format? Any advantages to it? What are you losing by shooting in 5 megs (as opposed to 8)? Couldn't you use the extra pixels someday at some point, maybe to display on high resolution wide screen tv?"
-- It's not overkill, as it were - I choose when to use it, for those "special" shots. Most of the time, I don't need it, and it takes too much space on my SD card. I would say for me, I shoot 10% full resolution.
The advantage of shooting at the lower resolution is that the noise is lessened.
HDTV is only 2 Megapixels, dude, in its still photo display mode. You can try pushing 8 MP at 30fps - I guess you would call that Extremely High Definition, if you invented a TV that could do that!! So don't get VIDEO confused with STILL - video has to cycle 30 frames per second, ya know.


"Also, what's your take on the added 1x optical zoom in EZ mode?"
-- Huh? What added 1x optical? Does it really say that? OK, I get it - but it only works when it shoots at 5 MP - in other words, it would be the same as shooting at 8 MP and then re-sizing it....

"What suggestions do you have for editing software, brands and versions (for our camera, of course)?"
-- I recommend Photoshop Elements 4, the toned-down version which you can get for $99, instead of the full version which cost 6 times that! But if you are going to process Raw, I think you would need the full version, unfortunately.
Bibble is good too, I hear.

12:37 pm - Tuesday, January 3, 2006

#737 AA

So I know everyone's been paying some attention to CES - and here's something very interesting:

an 8 Megapixel Ultra-HD screen:

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060105005042&newsLang=en

6:12 am - Sunday, January 8, 2006

#738 nick in japan

AA.. For some reason this link will not open for me, it may have something to do with Google, everytime I try to access them, I get referred to the Japanese Google, screwy, to say the least. Thanks!

6:21 am - Sunday, January 8, 2006

#740 AA

OK so it doesn't work from here if you "click" the link, for some reason, so -

copy & paste. That seems to work fine. BUT, you must clear your history, cache and cookies before you do it.

9:48 am - Sunday, January 8, 2006

#741 darrick

Anyone aware of a travel car charger for LX1 batteries? You know, type with adapter for cigarette lighter socket. No luck finding one. Contacted panasonic with question but no response yet. Thanks.

2:23 am - Thursday, January 12, 2006

#742 AA

You don't need one.
Get one of these things:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=blended&field-keywords=car power converter&results-process=default&dispatch=search/ref=pd_sl_aw_tops-1_blended_13260572_2/103-2556475-6067855

and keep it in your glove compartment or slide it under your seat for storage.
I have one with 2 plugs very similar to the ones you see here and I keep it under my seat - and if I really need it, I just plug it into the cigarette lighter and voila! I never buy a specific car-plug for my phones - I just use this thing. Then you can be charging while your car is running. Most of the time I just charge while I am driving around - beats the heck out of having to find an outlet in a coffee shop or something for my laptop or my cameras, or my phone.

3:23 am - Thursday, January 12, 2006

#743 nick in japan

I bought an inverter a few years ago, here in japan for about $30 US, it not only powers the speaker system for my portable CD system, but also allows the battery rechargers needed for Canon, Panasonic and Pentax batteries on a trip. Looking for hot-spots with the laptop lessens the stress of using up that weany Sony laptop battery too. Various brands and reasonable prices are available to enable you to use any 110 volt product (100 volts here)

3:48 am - Thursday, January 12, 2006

#744 darrick

AA, I couldnt locate the product you referred to from the link provided. Appreciate it if you could give product name and details. That might work better. Thanks. ....Nick, took your advice and began systematically adjusting "picture adjustment" settings. Differences are astonishing. Pictures are dull on standard settings compared to what is visible when high settings are judiciously employed. This camera is capable of producing some gorgeous images. The colors are vivid and the resolution sharp. Macrofocus is a marvel. The wide angle is especially gratifying. Pictures feel straightjacketed when not in 16:9. Question for anyone in the know: does manual focus allow for infinity focus to be set instantly?

7:25 am - Friday, January 13, 2006

#745 nick in japan

AT LAST!! Finally someone besides myself loves the LX-1!!! I'm still in awe with the pictures this gem produces! Anyway, It appears that the infinity graph tells the answer to your question, when switched on, it goes to infinity and the yellow bar shows what distance is in focus. Toggle to manual focus desires. Good shooting!!
Can't wait for the plum blossoms to start opening here, my 2nd favorite blossom!
Semper Fi

7:40 am - Friday, January 13, 2006

#746 AA

Darrick -

do a search in Google, and type:
"car power inverter"

and you'll see immediately.

Here's an example:

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=282150&pfp=BROWSE

and don't just click on the link - you can see that the whole link did not make it here, so try copy and paste instead. But you should get the idea.

9:06 am - Friday, January 13, 2006

#747 AA

As for the image quality -

if you NEVER shoot anything dark or shaded
if you only shoot light or bright shots

you will not see the problem with noise.

The noise bothers the heck out of me.

I took a photo the other day of a group of people in a very high-contrast daylight situation: some were wearing dark-coloured suits, and others were wearing bright/white shirts/blouses, against some grass and flowers in the background.
All the light colours were fine, as were the bright/white areas, the skin tone a little bit on the peachy side but with pale skin I guess it's acceptable, but then - the dark areas were simply full of noise, all the dark suits looked splotchy and almost looked like they were wearing spotty suits with dust all over them. This is unacceptable, at the ISO 50 setting in broad daylight.
It was supposed to be a nice group photo to be printed at least 13x19, but the noise is clearly visible. OK so some may say that the "grain" is sort of normal and some have said it looks like someone shot with higher speed film (ugh!)!!!
Weird thing though, the brown colours of the hair and some trees and things like that are all OK, and so are the rich grassy greens.
It's the proper dark colours - navy blues and blacks. If you examine them closely, you see the colour noise, the magenta and cyan are clearly very noisily expressed by this camera. Otherwise the shadows just drop completely in to darkness with no range.
Processing can clean it up a bit, but to mix it up with the skin tones where they are, the photo now ends up lacking that contrast that I do enjoy, and instead ends up sort of washed out and dull. So I keep it as close to the contrast as I can and I am living with not printing it much above 8x10 with these high-contrast shots.

So Nick, I think you really do need to examine what you say closely, because if you're not printing anything above 8x10 at all on a regular basis, it sort of defeats the purpose of owning a camera that can shoot 8 Megapixels - all YOU need is a camera that can shoot 3 Megapixels and you're fine.

9:23 am - Friday, January 13, 2006

#748 nick in japan

You are absolutely correct AA, in respect to your eval of noise. I dont want to leave the impression that the LX-1 is what everyone wants, or needs, I enjoy the package, the way the colors are, the IS, the controls and the noise that is manageable. I like the size, the build quality and even the "bling-factor". Because human nature yeilds more negative comments than positive ones, it is nice to hear an occasional positive remark.
I love the 16X9 image, and have not gotten as many "WoW" reactions with any other camera, partially because of the IS I'm sure.
I dont do any 8X10s, just the "High Vision" APS size for my albums, mostly just e-mail stuff and ALOT of special effects. I feel comfortable with the pixel count because it gives me latitude when I play in Photoshop. Interpolation works at various degrees with different pictures, so with various interpolation ( Increasing the physical size of the image upwards fron the original) I sometimes work with 10-12mb images to get what I want, then resize to 4mp or so for printing. Without pixels to work with , the end product suffers and doesnt have, in some cases, the contrast/detail I want.
There is something about the images that this camera produces that seem to be very desireable to me. I may not be as critical as you, I'm sure, and there are things that really need to be addressed about the LX, but , well, for now, I wouldnt dare leave the house without it.
I get depressed sometimes with some shots, I contribute that to , mostly high-contrast shots that I should have known better in the first place not to take!
Thanks for your comments! Oh! I took your advice and got one of my friends F-5s, I'm going to try and find a better scanner, mine doesnt do negs/slides, and try out some of the awesome films that have hit the market recently.
Semper Fi

10:08 am - Friday, January 13, 2006

#749 GARY POGODA

AA, you should use TinyURL.com to reduce the size of your links. It is
really simple to use. You just go to the site, paste your long link, press
a button, and it immediately gives you a tiny equivalent link which you
can then copy and paste into your comment.

For example, here is the TinyURL version of your original link.

http://tinyurl.com/bqub5

Good luck with it.

12:40 pm - Friday, January 13, 2006

#750 nick in japan

Thanks Gary, I got AA's site now!
That inverter I bought here is just the same as this one, a nice unit!

Sima STP-325 325-Watt Power Inverter

12:47 pm - Friday, January 13, 2006

#751 GARY POGODA

I'm posting this comment with several PhotographyBLOG threads, the
ones where I have spent considerable time over the past few months.

As you know, I've been searching for a camera for my wife's birthday
coming at the end of January. I was looking for an ultra-compact with
a high zoom and minimal red-eye. Some of the cameras I considered
were the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX1, the Samsung Digimax L55W, the
HP Photosmart R817, the Nikon Coolpix S4, and the Ricoh Caplio R3.

Unfortunately, all of these cameras were eliminated for one reason or
another, but mostly for their high image noise. It was only at CES that
a camera debuted which caught my eye, the Kodak EasyShare V570.

The V570 is a dual lens, dual CCD, ultra-compact. One lens is a fixed
23mm while the other is a 3x zoom (39 - 117mm), for a 5x total zoom
range. Both lenses are of the folded-optics variety. The V570 also has
two 1/2.5" 5 megapixel CCDs, which do not seem to be plagued by the
excessive noise of similar CCDs. Its in-camera red-eye removal is also
quite good.

If you are interested in reading more about the V570, or about its CCD
noise characteristics (as per a review of the V550 which uses the same
CCD), then check out the links in my comment #20 of the recent "Take
My Wife's Digital Camera" thread (written by yours truly).

http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/take_my_wifes_digital_camera/

The camera is not ordered yet, so any feedback you can offer would be
greatly appreciated. I would feel better if the camera had been reviewed
by our own Mark "The Noise Sleuth" Goldstein.

8:52 pm - Tuesday, January 17, 2006

#752 GARY POGODA

Thanks to everyone for their helpful suggestions and advice, on this
and other PhotographyBLOG threads, regarding a camera purchase
for my wife's birthday at the end of January.

Well, it's a done deal. Since I was way behind in the count with two
strikes (and no balls), I decided to lay off the next couple of pitches,
and wait until after PMA to make any camera purchasing decisions.

Instead, I ordered the HP Photosmart 475 Photo Printer for my wife.
It has built-in red-eye removal and adaptive lighting, and is capable
of 5" x 7", 4" x 6", and 4" x 12" prints. It also has an internal 1.5 GB
HD for storing photos and subsequent viewing on a connected TV.

This printer is exactly what my wife needed, and it will keep her busy
printing the back log of photos she has for at least a few months. We
have an important anniversary coming up at the end of June, so that
might be an excellent time for a camera purchase.

I feel another "The Peoples' Voice" article in the works. :)

9:44 pm - Thursday, January 19, 2006

#753 AA

Gary, your post is so wonderfully full of the lovely idiosyncratic ironies with which we all are becoming in regards to technlogical goodies, that:


" Well, it's a done deal. Since I was way behind in the count with two
strikes (and no balls), I decided to lay off the next couple of pitches,
and wait until after PMA to make any camera purchasing decisions."

-- The operative word here is: "WAIT" and the idea here that stuff just keeps coming and we end up waiting, and waiting, and we're just going to be even more frustrated and confused!

"Instead, I ordered the HP Photosmart 475 Photo Printer for my wife.
It has built-in red-eye removal and adaptive lighting, and is capable
of 5" x 7", 4" x 6", and 4" x 12" prints. It also has an internal 1.5 GB
HD for storing photos and subsequent viewing on a connected TV."

-- The operative word here is: "INSTEAD" - the longer we wait, technology will change and pass us by, and even if we know what it is that we want exactly, we may not want it, and the exact configuration may not be available, and we end up making compromises!

" This printer is exactly what my wife needed, and it will keep her busy
printing the back log of photos she has for at least a few months. We
have an important anniversary coming up at the end of June, so that
might be an excellent time for a camera purchase."

-- The idea here is "keep (someone) busy for a few months" and "coming up (in) June." Because ya know, technology changes every 6 months, and you have decided to resign yourself to waiting another 6 months to see if the perfect camera will be released just the way you and your wife would want! So, we all tell ourselves, "why not just buy something good enough for now to bide the time" and the irony obviously is that 6 months from now, in the world of electronic technologies, things tend to change a lot and what you really want may end up supposedly showing up in the 6 months after that! And you may end up waiting again, when all you need to do is just go buy something useful for the time being and not think and stress about it too much, and just get on with it! Cos you'll just end up getting yourself in all sorts of tangled-up mess, when, 6 months from now, you'll back on this time, and say to yourself - "shoot, it was only another $500 - I should've just bought it for this 6 - 12 month period, cos now I'm REALLY going to buy something every 12 months from now on anyways, so I don't have to keep thinking about it. I could always sell the 12 month-old thing to someone or make myself feel better by giving to charity or someone I know who may need exactly that thing I no longer want. Then I will know that I can myself happy by being able to buy something pretty nice and new every 12 months or so. If something really good does come along and it's affordable, then heck yeah I will buy it and keep it for 2 to 3 years, then I will have been quite satisfied with that excellent purchase I made, which means I can buy something really nice again 2 to 3 years down the line."

Phew.

Hahahahaha.

I hope your wife enjoys your purchase as much I did hearing about the purchase.

7:49 am - Friday, January 20, 2006

#754 AA

Sorry for all the typos and missed words and bad conjugation. I just got home from work in a frigid environment and I'm tired and my fingers aren't as nimble as I would like.
But you get the idea.

7:53 am - Friday, January 20, 2006

#755 GARY POGODA

AA, let me be sincere here for just one second. You should submit an
article to the editor for publication in PhotographyBLOG's new column,
"The Peoples' Voice".

To be honest, I would never have even put myself (and everyone else)
through the agonizing process of a camera search if I had known there
were printers with built-in red-eye removal, because that's what my wife
really needed, NOT a new camera. Of course, that all changed when her
Casio unexpectedly died just before the holidays.

Even so, since I totally keep up with the digicam market, I already knew
there was no camera out there I would want (for my wife), and anything
on which I finally settled, would be a huge compromise. But what choice
did I have?

Of course, I forgot that my father has a perfectly good digicam, a Canon
PowerShot G3, which he would have loaned us, and just yesterday, Nick
graciously offered to loan us his spare LX1.

So yes, under the right circumstances, waiting may be the best available
option, and since I also totally keep up with advancements in the digicam
market, I am totally optimistic something will be announced at PMA which
will not be SO MUCH of a compromise.

But if not, I have been waiting for the right opportunity to check out those
cool "single-use" digicams. :)

10:11 am - Friday, January 20, 2006

#756 AA

"To be honest, I would never have even put myself (and everyone else)
through the agonizing process of a camera search if I had known there
were printers with built-in red-eye removal, because that's what my wife
really needed, NOT a new camera. Of course, that all changed when her
Casio unexpectedly died just before the holidays."

-- But see, THAT is the exact point I was making.
The operative idea here being that HAD YOU KNOWN, and WOULD NEVER HAVE, and the AGONIZING SEARCH PROCESS!
Hahahaha. Know wot I mean?
With technology, we all go through that. But there are solutions to doing something more pro-active about those problems, and you know what those are as well as anyone!
OK so you know that all your wife ever wants is to get rid of red-eye shots from her photos. That's it. And the thing is, she could spend just a little bit of time sitting at the computer to make adjustments and tweak things in Photoshop or an application like that, shooting with perfectly good cameras that have been available for the last 4 years or so. Right? Because computers do give you that capability ad choice - although it does take a few minutes longer to make adjustments - but if it's just red-eye that's bothering her, that really only takes a few minutes.
And on top that, one of the tech pieces you own crapped out on you as well!

" Even so, since I totally keep up with the digicam market, I already knew
there was no camera out there I would want (for my wife), and anything
on which I finally settled, would be a huge compromise. But what choice
did I have? "

-- Well I think I already mentioned that choice - that she could learn to use an application like Photoshop and do the jiggy there, instead of the both of you having to wait or agonize over your search for the perfect camera, or settling for one that is decent enough to get the job done.

" Of course, I forgot that my father has a perfectly good digicam, a Canon
PowerShot G3, which he would have loaned us."

-- The Powershot G3? OK so he needs an update anyways! Hahahahaha! OK so he may not, since that sort of camera may be all he needs. And he could always get a new one once that machine craps out on him.

" So yes, under the right circumstances, waiting may be the best available
option, and since I also totally keep up with advancements in the digicam
market, I am totally optimistic something will be announced at PMA which
will not be SO MUCH of a compromise."

-- But you're talking about red-eye removal, right? We all know that closer the flash is to the lens, it's always going to happen - and the cameras do have the option of their own "red-eye flash" systems which actually do very good jobs, if you pick the right camera with a fast enough flash release without that delay in the 2 flashes firing so you don't actually surprise people as they begin to walk away in the middle of the shot once they have seen the pre-flash to make their pupils close up......
You just have to pick the camera that has the least amount of lag between the pre-flash and the main flash. And since your wife is not going to walk around with an SLR with an external flash, the compact camera's pre-flash system is the only choice we have, right?
And yeah you could always wait - which is one of the points I made regarding the irony in technology - but you could've bought her a perfectly good/nice camera for her last year, she could have been shooting happily all this time, or you could buy her one RIGHT NOW, so you don't have to think about waiting and just go out there and shoot away - and if the shots are good enough to be keepers, she could just spend a day making those red-eye fixes in the camera for those special shots - but then again, depending on the camera she uses, the red-eye may be pretty well controlled so that she doesn't have to spend so much time in the cimputer.
And so we all hope that your new HP printer does what it says it does and does it very well. Otherwise, let us know what the photos really look like, OK, because if the printer is really that good, I may buy one for my mother!
Hehehehe!

" But if not, I have been waiting for the right opportunity to check out those
cool "single-use" digicams. "

-- What right opportunity? You mean you're just going to check out that NEW tech thing anyways because you're a tech freak like the rest of us? Even though you wouldn't really have a need for a "single-use" digicam, it's going to be nice it's there just in case we need it, right?

The People's Voice, huh?
Well if the place needs something, I would be willing to give my 2cents, like I always do. But nothing private about me though! Hahahahaha!

5:56 pm - Friday, January 20, 2006

#757 Mark Goldstein

AA, if you'd like to contribute a more formal article that will be published here:

http://www.photographyblog.com/articles.php

then just send me at least 500 words in a Word document or email. It will be published on the front page of the site, and always be available from the Articles page, just like Gary and his wife :)

BTW, I wonder how many times the word "wife" appears on PhotographyBLOG now...

6:04 pm - Friday, January 20, 2006

#758 GARY POGODA

AA, I will keep you posted as to how well the photo printer works. I'm
optimistic that it will work well based on its features and the review at
Steve's Digicams.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/hp475.html

As for my camera buying decisions, the potential market has greatly
expanded since in-camera red-eye removal is now NOT a necessity;
however, your point about the timing of the two flashes is well taken,
since it is always better to avoid as much red-eye as possible before
trying to fix it.

I think you definitely should submit an article to "The Peoples' Voice".
But make sure you use a good spell checker. :)

6:46 pm - Friday, January 20, 2006

#759 AA

One other thing I forgot to point out, Gary -

Now, your wife has to lug around her camera AND her boxy little printer with her at all times, instead of having to carry just the little camera in her purse!
Because you know she's going to end up storing some of her photos in the printer and will forget to keep it stored in her flash memory or a PMP-type storage device, and the photos are going to be stuck in the memory of the printer and that cumbersome little-medium-bulky thing has to go with her whereever she ends up going with her camera too, if she wants to show some photos to her friends, or needs that somewhat-convenient thing to make quick prints! Hahahahahahaha!

So you sort of defeated the purpose of your entire reasoning for spending your time doing research and agonizing over it! Which brings me back to the exact point I was making about "idiosyncratic ironies" when it comes to making the correct and most ideal and useful choices regarding electronic technological items! Hahahahahaaha! Know wot I mean? We all fall prey to that headache.....

Sorry to point that out to you, pal of mine, but look at the pickle you got yourself in to! She has to carry that printer around with her now, instead of a nice little all around compact digicam with fairly good red-eye flash control, looking forward to cleaning and tweaking the photos later in the computer, while at the same time that computer being a convenient and perfect place to store ALL of her images! I also hope she knows how to burn CDs after having compiled all her favourites in to groups, just the way she wants them grouped! You know what I'm talking about, don't ya..........?

I feel your pain and migraine, I do....... but I don't feel sorry for you. You got yourself in to that pickle! Hahahahahaha!

I REALLY hope the printer honestly does a good job of printing without red-eye. I really do. Please please make that printer be all it can be!

Otherwise this was an excellent exercise in keeping me entertained! Yes, it was a delightful little exercise indeed!

9:19 am - Saturday, January 21, 2006

#760 GARY POGODA

Actually, what you are saying is not that far-fetched. Let me explain.

Before my wife had a digital camera, she'd shoot a roll of film, have
it printed at 5" x 7" in triplicate, take the photos with her to show our
friends, and then leave with them any photos of themselves.

When she got her first digital camera, the Canon PowerShot G3, the
idea was for her to do the printing herself on her Epson Stylus Photo
R800 Printer. After several attempts at this she did not like it, so her
photos would get loaded on the computer, but never printed (neither
the Epson nor Canon have PictBridge capability).

She also tried using the Canon to show her pictures, but the problem
was that the G3 didn't transport easily in a pocketbook, so she rarely
had it with her. Then she got a Casio QV-R51, which she always kept
with her, and which had an even larger LCD than the G3, so this was
an excellent camera for showing pictures. The only problem was that
she could not leave any relevant prints with our friends.

Enter the HP Photosmart 475 Photo Printer. This is going to make her
soooo happy. And when she finally does get another digital camera, it
will have a 2.5" (or larger) LCD so she can show her pictures that way,
as well.

So the bottom line is, she will not have to carry the printer around with
her, just the prints. :)

6:46 pm - Saturday, January 21, 2006

#761 Oisin Flynn

Gary will your wife ever get this camera you are hunting?
Also your comment way back (#23 i think) about the samsung pro815 battery, its by no means the worlds largest capacity Li-ion battery and never has been

6:26 pm - Tuesday, February 7, 2006

#762 GARY POGODA

Okay, I'll bite. What digital camera has a more powerful Li-Ion battery?

As for your camera hunting question, the answer is, I do not know yet,
but I should know by the end of this month. The G3 is not working out,
so if nothing satisfactory comes out of PMA, I will buy one of the three
most unique zoom ultra-compacts (or thereabouts) offered to date.

Any idea what those would be? :)

7:51 pm - Tuesday, February 7, 2006

#763 darrick

does anyone know if the moisture from a compressed air can is likely to do any damage to the surface of a lens? came out very cold. concerned.

3:23 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#764 nick in japan

Concerning compressed air, I would never use it myself because of the chance that I may make a mistake and be too close to the lens resulting in possible drastic temprature changes that may affect coating, lens bonding, temp changes internally, as well as forcing minute dust particles into places they shouldnt be. I recommend a large bulb rubber hand blower.
If you have already shot the air at the lens, the only way to determine damage would be to look for abnormal discoloration, check all operations , and finally checking the image you produce.
Compressed air is used by many many folks, professional and not, It is safe if used properly! Touble is that we are human and make mistakes, being too close could definitely cause damage to just about anything. Good luck! Safety First!

4:10 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#765 Greg

Somebody asked about battery life... my experience with the LX1 is that the battery life is fantastic.. i've taken 250+ photos on one battery before, which is quite excellent really. hardly ever need the second battery... but bought one just in case. :)

4:15 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#766 nick in japan

Battery life is affected my many factors, ensure your back-up battery is charged, being without the LX-1 is a horror no-one should have to endure! Do you appreciate it as much as I?

4:24 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#767 Greg

Yes, yes i do.. its a wonderful camera that takes absolutely fantastic photos.

here's some examples if anyone is interested:
http://www.doofcentral.com/photos/index.php?cat=2

The top 2 albums (Rainbow Serpent and Earthcore) were both taken with my LX1. Feedback welcome. ;)

4:58 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#768 nick in japan

Awesome! Suspicions confirmed! Can you please elaborate on the image used for Earthcore! I love it!

6:07 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#769 Greg

Which image are you referring to Nick?

7:29 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#770 nick in japan

OOPS! I viewed the images of both albums, and my comment was referring to what I thought was your album cover! Gomen. I looked closely at the cover and decided that it was a wonderfully done composite, not an actual photograph!
The images for both the albums are great, lottsa hard work, a wonderful memory! Congratulations!!

8:09 am - Monday, February 13, 2006

#771 Greg

Ahhh... yeah that wasn't me - that was the promo flyer for the event.

thanks for the feedback Nick.. muchly appreciated. :)

I like this one the best:
http://www.doofcentral.com/photos/albums/doofcentral/Rainbow_Serpent_2006/Rainbow_2006_093_DoofCentral.JPG

(this is straight out of the camera - no post production or tweaking at all). :)

12:10 am - Tuesday, February 14, 2006

#772 nick in japan

Very nice! You have a good eye, I'm impressed with your work, exposures and focus work is impressive also. The LX-1 has an image color rendition that is very pleasing to me, I feel you may have tweaked all your settings , as have I!
Having never been weaned, among many others, # 088 works for me, too!
Back in the mid-80s, I did a project of people using a camera. One of my favorite series, mostly done on reversal film, 35mm, the wonderful positions and contortions, the expressions of the subjects, hand and body language, all added up to a real reflection of the time. I was inspired by the beautiful mothers in Kimono, capturing their children, all dressed up, at the Shrine ajoining Hiroshima Castle on Children's Day , celebrated a couple of weekends in November.
For your next album, maybe , try a series of folks taking pictures, and share with us, please!
Thank you for sharing your project!
Good Shooting!
Semper Fi!
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1:02 am - Tuesday, February 14, 2006

#773 Greg

Yup i like #88 too.

photos of people taking photos.. sure i can give it a go.

1:45 am - Tuesday, February 14, 2006

#774 JT

I have bought a A-DATA 4 GB SD Card for my DMC-LX1; when I tried to use the card the LX1 forced me to format it; once formated I can only see 2GB and not 4GB. Anyone know how I can fix this problem?

JT

10:55 pm - Sunday, September 3, 2006

#775 GARY POGODA

Sorry, JT. The LX1's maximum SD capacity is 2 GB. 8-/

11:25 pm - Sunday, September 3, 2006

#776 Hunter Cashdollar

Are you sure it's 2 GB?

4:05 pm - Thursday, September 21, 2006

#777 GARY POGODA

Yep.

4:11 pm - Thursday, September 21, 2006

#778 Photogirl

Great camera !

check my blog:
http://www.photographytoday.info

2:20 pm - Wednesday, November 22, 2006

#779 Peter

Nick. Are you still around? Was googling for some info on the ????Golden Lizard M645 1000S and just happened across your comments.

3:56 am - Tuesday, January 16, 2007

#780 Pises

Which one to choose. Lumix LX2 or Canon SD800 is.

9:42 am - Thursday, February 1, 2007

#781 Mark Goldstein

Hmmm, difficult choice Pises!

Which one did you go for?

11:02 am - Tuesday, February 27, 2007

#782 nick in japan

Sorry Peter, been under the weather, out of the loop for a while, and, a while more....Canon has got a winner with the SD800, I stayed with the LX line because it became clear to me that it's features were what I found attractive, no regrets. Most cameras now have wonderful advancements, putting them all in a very close group, your individual wants and needs have got to be the deciding factor.
The 16x9 feature and beautiful wide LED are really something, try and hold each for a hand's on feeling, if you can.
Semper Fi

11:41 am - Tuesday, February 27, 2007

#783 GARY POGODA

Nick, hope you are feeling better.

9:42 pm - Wednesday, February 28, 2007

#784 nick in japan

Thanks Gary, I am feeling better! Gotta be alot better to get those pesky frogs and their egg sacs around the begining of May.
Semper Fi

9:20 am - Thursday, March 1, 2007

#785 Mark Goldstein

Glad to hear you're back on form Nick!

9:31 am - Thursday, March 1, 2007

#786 nick in japan

Thanks Mark, personal note just sent to Gary via you!

10:24 am - Thursday, March 1, 2007

#787 Dieter Butow

Hi guys,
I am looking for an underwater housing for the Lumix DMC-LX1. Does Panasonic or somebody else make an affordable one?

10:47 am - Saturday, May 19, 2007

#788 estetik

This is a compact good camera I believe.

6:00 am - Monday, November 26, 2007

#789 Greg

i second that request for underwater housing... as far as i know panasonic don't make them :( would love to know if anybody has found a solution.

then again, not sure how comfortable i would be taking this wonderful piece of equipment 30m underwater wtih me. sounds like a recipe for tears.

11:19 pm - Thursday, May 15, 2008

#790 jack jones e-mail address ( jrjonesjr@comcast.net

I was given the lumix camera for xmas 2007. I tried to use it twice and each time the pictures that appeared in the veiwer were red in tint. Because of this I will not use it. This seems to be a waste of money hard earned money. If someone can advise I would appriciate it. Please reply.

10:39 pm - Wednesday, October 22, 2008

#791 jack jones ( prior e-mail )

I am sorry I have been just so disappointed about the camera and not being able to use it that I forgot to type the stile digital camera I have: Model DMC-LZ7. Thanks for your help.

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10:46 pm - Wednesday, October 22, 2008

#792 Digital

I would still go for my G9 camera ...

2:27 pm - Wednesday, December 10, 2008

#793 Mark Goldstein

test comment

3:19 pm - Tuesday, May 12, 2009

#794 cam balkon

ey Nick, how much did u pay for the LX1 there in Japan? Care to send me some sample pictures?

4:49 pm - Monday, May 18, 2009

#795 cam balkon

nd it to me please, email add is on post 103. Thanks. Full resolution pics would be greatly appreciated. thanks

2:12 pm - Saturday, May 23, 2009

#796 professional camera

This seems to be the most advance camera for HD photography. Panasonic is a trusted brand. I am also using Panasonic camera to capture all special moment of my life.

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