UK Photographers Petition PM to Abandon Copyright Protection Amendment Plans

#1 tobias

I wouldn't sign that petition for anything in the world. Once it's on the web, it's on the web, baby. You've been paid. Now f*ck off.

7:31 pm - Thursday, November 19, 2009

#2 dolores

I agree, though in less colorful language. Copyright protection has become a bane for modern life.

7:34 pm - Thursday, November 19, 2009

#3 chay

tobias,
How about we should be able to steal a car once it's parked on the street, huh?

8:07 pm - Thursday, November 19, 2009

#4 Darren Hector

That's actually incorrect. In many cases the photographer hasn't been paid for the work. Just because someone displays their work, whether for sale or otherwise doesn't mean someone else has the right to steal it.

Or to put it another way, if I baked a cake and put it on the windowsill next to an open window to cool, you don't have the right to just take it.

8:34 pm - Thursday, November 19, 2009

#5 tobias

Who is stealing anything? Images are infinitely replicable on the web. If I eat the cake, or steal a car, it's gone. If I right click and save an image on my desktop because I like it, the image is still there where I originally saw it. The image is low res; I can't make a print. If I'm not making money from the image (remember, this is an image; it doesn't actually exist physically), then where's the harm? God, this kind of whining makes me want to hurl. Yes, go ahead and sue a twelve year old because he right-clicked on an image if that's how you need to make a buck. How about this: insist on credit. That way your pathetic little 600 px image can advertise the full version.

8:59 pm - Thursday, November 19, 2009

#6 Claire

Tobias, you're missing the point. No one is going to sue a twelve year old for saving a pretty image, as you put it. In fact, saving an image to your desktop is legal and harmless anywhere. You would not get into trouble for saving image. It is reproduction (like for example, posting someone elses personal photo to your personal website or myspace page against the artist wishes at a non-commercial level). This law is basically making it totally legal and fine for a company to take a piece of hobby photography and turn it into an advertisment for Jessops or whatever. Imagine a picture of yourself you posted on face-book to become a 'before' image on a plastic surgery panthlet or acne cream advert. I signed and I hope more read into this law in more detail and understand just what kind of rights it is taking away.

10:17 pm - Thursday, November 19, 2009

#7 hoynk

Umm .. This is a bit confusing, Please put more information about the subject, the information is not completely clear place, lends itself to misunderstandings, after exposing Tobias and Claire, I am a bit tangled.
Thanks

PD: Sorry my english xD

5:51 pm - Friday, November 20, 2009

#8 Sebastiaan

Claire, you're making a mistake there. Adverts are commercial and this plan only covers non-commercial use.

I use a Creative Commons BY-ND-ND (BY = credit, NC = Non Commercial, ND = No Deratives) license to distribute my work, sometimes it's even part of the assignment to publish my photos on Flickr.com.

And to Darren: I get paid by the hour and I select the photos that are available under this license. In my case: yes, I already got paid.

You can visit http://www.creativecommos.org for more information on Creative Commons. Maybe that gives some insight in the way this plan may work out.

10:10 pm - Sunday, November 22, 2009

#9 Sebastiaan

I made a mistake in the url, the right adress is:
http://www.creativecommons.org

10:13 pm - Sunday, November 22, 2009

#10 Andrew

So ... government going to U-turn on music next?
How can this approach work for photos when government takes the opposite stance for music (ISPs blocking users who share mp3s non-commercially)
What about text, can I download the BBC, Times, website, and reproduce it out-of-context non-commercially on my website without their permission?

7:36 pm - Tuesday, November 24, 2009

#11 rob

tobias, you need to have your head examined... the sooner, the better...

10:43 pm - Tuesday, November 24, 2009